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I'm happy to hear this. I'm due for a new phone soon, and I really don't want to pay Google or Apple to spy on me and sell my data.
The convenience of buying a phone with GOS preinstalled, and avoiding the hassle of figuring out how to do it myself is appreciated.
If they combine this with a user replaceable battery, I'm in.
It really wasn't much of a hassle to install.
I'm seconding above's comment: I have installed Lineage on 2 other phones before, and GOS was easier to install.
And it handles major version upgrades over the air smoothly!
I’ve been the proud owner of a GrapheneOS device for a year now.
A bit of healthy competition is always good for hardware development, and longer battery life is definitely a plus.
I’ll still prefer a manual software installation over pre-installed software.
So, by the time the new G/OS Motos drop, the EU legislation mandating removable batteries should be in effect.
What a ray of sunshine. Tell me somehow Lenovo's ownership doesn...
Lenovo is a publicly traded company, with its largest shareholder being Legend Holdings Corporation, which holds roughly 30–36% of its shares. Legend Holdings itself is partly owned by the Chinese Academy of Sciences (a government entity), making Lenovo a company with significant ties to the Chinese government, along with substantial public, global investment.
Ah shit.
But, right now, aside from One Belt One Road (everything you have is owed), China is actually a little more predictable than America. Until a Korean or Finnish company can make/buy a Lenovo, I guess the Lenovo we have is the best one we'll get?
As an American I look at the spying issue like this. There's not really a choice to get a piece of network connected technology that's not spying on you. The choice you have as a consumer is who will most likely be the one spying. China has less interest in and less ability to mess with my daily life than the American government or American oligarchs. China doesn't care if I want to download a movie or if I, individually, engage in some form of protest. On top of that it's generally cheaper for me to buy the spying device that enables China to spy on me than the device that allows America to spy on me. So ultimately I say, "China, here's my data. Don't tell my own government or the corporations that control it."
Btw there's a carveout in the EU battery regulation basically exempting a lot of phones.
As long as they have batteries that are rated for enough charging cycles they don't have to comply.
I'm not so sure China spies at hardware level, or if they do, they must be using the same tricks as US designed devices. Otherwise the US agencies would have taken a certain pleasure outing the backdoors to discredit chinese phone makers.
So either they (NSA, others?) didn't find anything, or revealing the finding would help reveal the US planted backdoors.
Honestly hope moto becomes the standard bearer for all at this rate- graphene, calyx, lineage, etc.
I am quietly hoping this is retroactive. I have a Razr presently, and I love the thing but it's rough knowing that there's basically zero support for foldable devices yet within Lineage or Graphene. I'm hoping this enables the team working on Graphene with Moto to flesh that side out
It won't be the new phones will need security chips on a level with a pixel
This won't be retro-active, that's why only Pixels are supported today: Motorola has to include some changes in the hardware to meet GOS requirements, and they are doing that, at least on some of their devices. No other phone maker other than Google has met them fully so far.
One can only hope it's successful enough to incentivize some others to go ahead and meet these requirements: Graphene is not a company and will certainly happily work with other good willing phone makers.