Longing for the day I can buy an EV that's not a smartphone on wheels is like... : simpsonsshitposting

[-] snooggums@piefed.world 66 points 4 months ago

Hitting the gas in an EV is like filming with a digital camera.

[-] IcedRaktajino@startrek.website 53 points 4 months ago

Yeah. Gas [pedal] is used here in the same way the "save" icon is still a floppy disk.

[-] Zombie@feddit.uk 13 points 4 months ago

It's a skeuomorph!

[-] brb@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago

What a fucked up word

[-] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 months ago

it's easy and convenient?

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[-] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 30 points 4 months ago

On a broader note, this is a failure of capitalism in which products can never be perfected.

There are sooo many technologies that we fully figured out years ago but they can’t just make it optimal and move on.

This is why we have washing machines using internet for whatever reason.

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[+] reddig33@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

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[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 4 months ago

Backed by amazon? LOL if you think it won't still have a cellular radio and full tracking suite installed.

[-] RattlerSix@lemmy.world 27 points 4 months ago

Slate has stated that they will not have a cellular or other type of connection. It does need some type of connection to do software updates, and that will be from your phone using their app to the truck via USB.

They've also stated they won't track your driving data. You can opt in to share data about the truck's health through the app for servicing purposes, but that's all. They've also promised not to sell any kind of data to third parties.

That could always change, but I'm on the wait list for one and there are people on the slate forums who are serious about privacy and are watching this and seem pretty happy for now.

[-] athatet@lemmy.zip 6 points 4 months ago

Software updates via the phone app 😒

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[-] CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Slate is the 2nd best choice rn.

First best is buying an older car for cheap and spending some money to repair/upgrade

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 months ago

Not exactly a choice, they don't actually exist yet.

[-] Godnroc@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

I'm quite excited for the Slate to be released. Electric truck, optional SUV conversion, decent price, minimum frills, customize it yourself if that's your thing. That sounds so much better than wheeled tank with built-in privacy concerns.

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 6 points 4 months ago

I just wish there was a version with a full size bed. Not that any of the other light truck options are any better in that regard.

[-] IcedRaktajino@startrek.website 12 points 4 months ago

Yeah, I've been watching that. It is supposed to start fulfilling orders this year (last I read anyway), but it'll be at least next year before I can probably look into one. And even then, I'd want to let some other/braver people test them out for reliability and repair-ability.

[-] oce@jlai.lu 8 points 4 months ago

Cars also need to be smaller for the sustainable transition. We need to disconnect ego from car. Consider it's spending about 95% of its life parked.

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[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 months ago

And it's only ~~$20,000~~...~~$25000~~...$30000. soon I'll have one parked next to my Aptera, and Tesla Roadster.

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[-] Mountainaire@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago

no telemetry

In 2026?

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[-] coffee_tacos@mander.xyz 23 points 4 months ago

I would also like "turn" please

[-] Kichae@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 months ago

That requires a premium subscription.

[-] Soapbox@lemmy.zip 12 points 4 months ago

One of the most appealing things about Slate motors is that they seem to lack all the telemetry bullshit.

The least appealing thing about them is that Jeff Bezos is a primary investor.

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[-] Don_alForno@feddit.org 11 points 4 months ago

No camera filming me please.

[-] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 11 points 4 months ago

if you’re american isn’t that the chevy bolt?

[-] noodles@slrpnk.net 10 points 4 months ago

The bolt has buttons and no real smart features but it also has an infotainment tablet. It also still has gps and Wi-Fi and whatever else as options, so I don't particularly trust it not to be tracking everything. It's certainly miles better than most of the competition but it's still a modern car.

[-] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

As I understand it, one of the other advantages of the bolt is that it's fairly easy to disconnect. There's a dedicated fuse you can pull which will disable the telemetry as well as the microphone and a lot of the related infotainment system functions like gps. Or for those who want more of those functions, you can open the panel behind the screen, unplug the antenna, and replace it with with a terminator so that it thinks it's intact but has no signal.

Of course, it will still try to send data home through your phone if you let it. Apparently it can do that through android auto and carplay if they are connected via bluetooth but not over USB.

[-] Zikeji@programming.dev 6 points 4 months ago

There are guides to disabling OnStar effectively which should assuage those concerns. Well, for the 23 and older models. Not sure about the new stuff.

A quick terminator on the cellular antenna makes it receive no cell signal - the other features that don't rely on cellular all continue working.

[-] Eddie345@thelemmy.club 9 points 4 months ago

Manual Gears (5 speed)!

[-] kboy101222@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 months ago

Do EVs even have transmissions? I ask this legitimately, I know shit for dick about cars beyond how to change oil

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

They have one drive reduction gear, just one speed, no shifting.

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[-] dkppunk@piefed.social 7 points 4 months ago

I’d honestly love this. I don’t even care if the stick doesn’t actually switch gears and it can just give me fake engine rev sounds. I just miss driving manual and paddle shifters just aren’t the same.

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[-] this@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 months ago

Gas? No thanks.

[+] trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

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[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 8 points 4 months ago

I bought the Kona (2024) and it's the best car I could ask for. It has some smart things of course, but I have no subscriptions, no phone requirement, I mostly just listen to FM radio. It's been the best car I've ever owned.

[-] IcedRaktajino@startrek.website 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Features look nice. I guess I'm just gonna have to get over my "crossover" hate and buy a car that looks like a low-top roller skate lol. Was hoping the industry would have moved on from that unfortunate design by now.

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[-] SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip 6 points 4 months ago

There are quite a few EVs that satisfy those criteria on the market!

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[-] Randelung@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Gas, you say? Are you sure?

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[-] PlantDadManGuy@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Slate EV

[-] wewbull@feddit.uk 5 points 4 months ago

Gas?

Accelerator!

[-] sparkyshocks@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 months ago

From my point of view the steering wheel and brake pedal are accelerators as well.

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