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[-] Mihies@programming.dev 46 points 4 months ago

If I deny global warming, there can't be one. Simple.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 4 months ago

is that why datacenters are being peddled so hard there.

[-] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk 1 points 4 months ago

Just don't look up.

[-] budget_biochemist@slrpnk.net 35 points 4 months ago

One government minister has suggested carrying an onion in your pocket as an alternative to air conditioning:

As India swelters, Union Minister Jyotiraditya Scindia suggested skipping air conditioning and carrying an onion to combat extreme heat, citing his 'Chambal skin' and traditional remedies. While temperatures soar between 40-46°C across many states, with heatwave warnings issued, Scindia's advice blends personal habit with age-old practices, highlighting a contrast between traditional relief and the escalating reality of intense heatwaves.

[-] qprimed@lemmy.ml 31 points 4 months ago
[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 8 points 4 months ago

Garlic against vampires, onions against the heat. Makes sense

[-] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 4 points 4 months ago

blends personal habit with age-old practices, highlighting a contrast between traditional relief and the escalating reality of intense heatwaves.

This sounds AI generated.

[-] Gsus4@mander.xyz 27 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

To me, the case of India and Saudi Arabia are the strangest examples of climate denial, because they are going to be the most uninhabitable and keep buying/selling. Like they think they can outrun global warming through fossil accelerated development. Australia too, because they are drowning in solar power, but still hold onto coal. russia at least makes sense, they just want to become warmer and unlock new land, even if the whole place will turn into a giant swamp.

[-] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 39 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

This is a fairly one sided opinion piece which does not accurately reflect India's policy towards fossil fuels.

I follow Indian politics fairly closely and I was suprised to see the assertion that Modi has denied climate change for years especially since India has been fairly aggressive at expanding renewable usage since it is a matter of energy independence for them. Unlike Saudi Arabia, India imports essentially all of its oil and has very little to none domestically.

The often referred to quote from the speech he gave was "Climate has not changed. We have changed. Our habits have changed." In the rest of the speech he goes on to explain further that the environment isn't changing on its own; human behavior, lifestyle shifts, and a lack of harmony with nature are driving environmental destruction. The argument he was making recognized anthropogenic (human-caused) climate change; it wasn't a denial of it.

From 2025 to 2026 India added 55+ GW of non-fossil fuel capacity and is currently the world's third largest market for installed renewable energy.

Modi was vocal about combatting climate change at COP26, committing India to a "Net Zero" emissions target by 2070 and pledged that India would source 50% of its energy capacity from non-fossil fuel sources by 2030.

India also recently had its fast breeder Thorium reactor reach criticality and is planning to expand capacity to meet 15% of domestic energy demand by 2047.

There's a lot of reasons not to like Modi but this is a misrepresentation of his and India's current stance on climate change.

Yes, India still burns coal. No country in history has developed without coal. It is cheap, abundant and accessible domestically. Renewables are still too inefficient and pricey to meet the needs of a rapidly developing nation robustly. Oil is a foreign import for India, which comes with its own unique costs and geopolitical complexity. Energy has been crucial to India pulling 30 million people out of poverty domestically per year and abandoning coal at this stage would likely mean decreasing that number.

Its a complicated situation, but what is clear is India recognizes climate change and has expressed a clear intention to expand renewable utilization over the next several decades. For India it's not only a matter of domestic climate impact but decreasing reliance on global oil markets.

[-] AusatKeyboardPremi@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

This should be a top-level comment so that others have a chance to educate themselves and form their opinions better.

There is lot to criticise about Modi like rising unemployment, systemic dismembering of journalism, whataboutism, and so much more!

But twisting the words of his speech (that is more than a decade old now) is just pathetic and immediately makes anyone pedalling that narrative foolish. It is even worse when a journalist does it, since fact checking is paramount.

[-] silence7@slrpnk.net 9 points 4 months ago

Saudi Arabia makes sense if you think the royal family intends to move overseas and let the populace die

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

All rich people think like that.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 4 months ago

and MODI wants datacenters in the country apparently. which is why rubio went there.

[-] ultrafastsloth@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago
[-] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago
[-] M1nds3nd@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago

I've heard that one before.

[-] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

We got so good at draining literal swamps we've had to pass laws specifically protecting wetlands...

[-] Grainne@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago

Australia is mostly ruined in the top 3/4. The bottom section where most of the people live will be relatively okay.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 4 months ago

the outback is expanding i heard.

[-] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 months ago

The >50⁰C heat waves in Melbourne when the wind is northwesterly in summer aren't going to be fun. By the end of the century there could be occasional fatal wet bulb temperatures.

(the current record is 46⁰C in 2009, but extremes get more extreme)

[-] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

fast fact: For westerners who still think of India as a faraway little spot, slightly under a fifth of the world's population lives there. More than 4x as many people as the USA. So this is kind of a major deal, humanity-wise.

[-] Allero@lemmy.today 17 points 4 months ago

Nah, having about 1,5 billion people living there is one of the first things people on the West associate with India (and also China)

[-] quips@slrpnk.net 17 points 4 months ago

Every westerner knows this

[-] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

You'd be surprised. Some of us still want to give them maps and such as.

[-] guy@piefed.social 4 points 4 months ago

For Americans* who still think

[-] artifex@piefed.social 20 points 4 months ago

As predicted in Kim Stanley Robinson’s Ministry for the Future.

[-] Rossphorus@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

Just us and these terrible men – for it is mostly men – who fell trees and spend other people’s lives as pocket change.

Tripped right at the finish line. What a great way to turn a clear call to action against the leaders in charge into meaningless gender-based infighting instead.

[-] StillAlive@piefed.world 13 points 4 months ago

Fuck my countrymen. They voted for this (or stayed home and didn't bother to vote at all).

I've never voted for BJP ever in my life so my conscience is clear on that front at least.

[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago

Just carry on polluting the earth and global warming will get you. The Cyclones are becoming more powerful and get rid of the Caste System too.

[-] sirico@feddit.uk 7 points 4 months ago

Nature really isn't too bothered about all our can kicking. It'll find balance quicker than we will be able to adapt

[-] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago

Nothing counts unless it sells, I guess.

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