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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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Molly White is best known for shining a light on the silliness and fraud that are cryptocurrency, blockchain and Web3. This essay may be a sign that she's shifting her focus to our sneerworthy friends in the extended rationalism universe. If so, that's an excellent development. Molly's great.

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[–] Evinceo@awful.systems 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Crypto is going to dry up as a beat eventually, so I'm glad she's laying the groundwork for a next move.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 5 points 1 year ago

i assure you that it has. The AI people are awful though.

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For example, the inaugural Substack post defining effective accelerationisms’s “principles and tenets” name-drops the “Jarzynski-Crooks fluctuation dissipation theorem”

To echo a comment from old!SneerClub: That's not a thing. There are three separate but related ideas (the Crooks fluctuation theorem, the Jarzynski equality and the fluctuation-dissipation theorem) which the author doesn't know are separate, because he hasn't a clue what he's talking about.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A link to what?

(The link in the Substack post is to the Wikipedia page for the Crooks result, disguising — intentionally or not — the fact that the writer is just smashing together science words.)

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

the apparently original e/acc post, i think i've seen it but can't find it

[–] earthquake@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think that's it — it's the one Timnit Gebru linked to back in February which prompted the old!SneerClub discussion I mentioned, and Molly White's newsletter links to the same place.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I found this earlier one, which it cites as its source:

https://web.archive.org/web/20220602164803/https://swarthy.substack.com/p/effective-accelerationism-eacc?s=r

All that's before that is these few guys throwing the term around on Twitter

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is a fractal optimization algorithm that created life, intelligence, and every meta-organism we know.

I'm wanking at the speed of light / wanna make a meta-fractal brain out of you

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 5 points 1 year ago

(Don't torture me now) I'm having such a productive time, I'm having a QALY!

[–] pikesley@mastodon.me.uk 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@earthquake @dgerard I just read some of this and it made me substantially stupider

[–] earthquake@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's important to stretch before reading their stuff. A good stretch is to find the latest fad and argue how it's an addiction.

Then, afterwards, you need to cool off and detox. I recommend some Quake, but finding a new favorite album also works.

[–] self@awful.systems 5 points 1 year ago

quake is still fucking awesome and the remasters of 1 and 2 are great for an impromptu steam deck lan party

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 6 points 1 year ago

This arrived just in time for me to use it in an online argument. Thanks.

[–] worldofbirths@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Thank you for sharing this! An excellent read with really good insight.

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Must be another one of those hundred hostile bloggers who inexplicably have it in for EA, according to siskind.

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 4 points 1 year ago

i am reasonably sure that Molly knows precisely who these fucks are and is not a fan

[–] V0ldek@awful.systems 3 points 7 months ago

The link is dead, now hosted at [citation needed]