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I noticed that I and Alexa say “six ‘oh’ five a m”, but is that the correct way of saying the time? Specifically the “oh” part?

Kind of like when speaking out a phone number, how we might say “my number is one two three, six ‘oh’ six…” but really, that’s not an “oh” like the letter O even though it looks like an O, but everyone knows the person is saying “six zero six”, which is the proper way of saying that.

Edit: thanks for all the answers everyone! This was just pure curiosity for me but I really enjoyed reading everyone’s responses and learning some new things!

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[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 58 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The proper way is the way the person you are talking to will understand.

Five minutes past 6 in the morning. (what I would say)

Six oh five AM.

etc.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fifty-five 'til five 'til midday

[–] ItsYaBoyN00dles@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 6 points 1 year ago

It's too early for all that 5 past 6 shit. I just woke up and you want me to do math?

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 40 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I'd typically say something like: "One billion, seven hundred and one million, sixty five thousand, one hundred seconds since the epoch."

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[–] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"Five past 6"

But 6 oh 5 is also fine

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[–] Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I found this:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KozLFLwhLac

And this other answer that goes into more detail on the Middle Ages part:

"Whereas the Latin alphabet has been used for English from the earliest times, the numerals are relatively late. In early Middle English there were words for one, two, three (etc) but there was no word for "zero", as the symbol hadn't yet arrived in England (from India, via Arabia and Italy), and even when the symbols did arrive, they were, at first, a rather specialist tool for calculation that neither the illiterate peasants, nor the literate clergy, would have had much use for. They were a device that allowed financiers to make calculations without the use of an abacus.

As literacy and numeracy became more widespread in the Early modern period there is an issue: What do we call "0"? There's no problem with "1" because we can just name the numeral after the number "one". But there is no number for "0"!

Some people use the technical term "zero" from Italian, ultimately from Sanskrit. But this is a foreign and strange word. Some people use the English word "naught", meaning "nothing". But there is another option. The symbol looks exactly like the letter O. So not having a better name, many people just used the name of the symbol that it looks like. This use is attested from 1600, but probably goes back long before that."

I have not checked the veracity of either source or answer, but it's definitely true that English speakers have been saying O for 0 for a very long time, in any context that isn't too confusing.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Then you have people who use aught for naught, as in 30 aught 6 for the 30-06 Springfield round or anything with a zero that my grandfather refers to.

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[–] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] r00ty@kbin.life 6 points 1 year ago

Yes, glad you made the minutes optional because I think most people colloquially skip minutes.

[–] ji88aja88a@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Five past six

[–] Pendulla@lemdro.id 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Five past six is what they taught me in English lessons back in the day :) that is the "proper" Way to say it in British English.

01-29 minutes are past the hour, 30 is half past the hour, 31-59 are to the hour (ex. 20 minutes to 7).

You could also be a smart ass and say it in US military style - oh six hundred and five.

[–] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I believe you only say the hundred if the time ends in 00

[–] towerful@programming.dev 8 points 1 year ago

Yeh, it would probably be "oh six oh five" for us military time.
They pronounce the leading 0.

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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Six-oh-five is not wrong.

Unless you’re in basic. Then I’m pretty sure it was zero-six-hundred-oh-five. (Unless I’m wrong. If it’s any consolation…. They were always going to yell at you.)

[–] sadcoconut@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'll give you a short answer as you've got a lot of detailed ones already: to a native British English speaker "six oh five a m" sounds completely normal. There are other ways to say it that sound equally normal.

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[–] KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (10 children)

i would say "Sechs uhr fünf" which translates to "six o'clock five". but if i was to speak english i would definetely say "six o' five" the "o'" might even stand for "o'clock"

[–] Whelks_chance@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Which is turn stands for "of the clock"

[–] CalamityBalls@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

In some situations, we use "o" for the number 0. Been hunting around for a reason but I think it's just an abbreviation of zero.

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[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yeah that's just gonna be a 6 am from me dawg, I'm not splitting hairs over 5 minutes

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

6:30 in ADHD time

[–] RandomWalker@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I would likely say six oh five as would my wife and friends. We’re all American from different parts of the country, so I suspect this is a difference in British v American English.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Five past/after 6

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[–] rufus@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Not that you asked, but the thing that I have most issues with is the AM in that time. I think you should drop that and just count to 23 with the hours instead of only to 12. It always confuses me if 12am is noon or midnight. And it's superfluous anyways. We have enough numbers, no need to be stingy.

[–] CalamityBalls@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (6 children)

12:01AM is definitely 00:01, so 12AM is midnight.

Agree though, 24hr clock is just better.

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[–] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's there because of analog clocks, which somebody in history decided would look too cluttered if they counted all 24 hrs, and at any rate we're asleep for roughly a third of them anyway, so it's superfluous. The 12-hr clock is an elegant design solution.

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[–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

IMO it's confusing because it makes no sense, since I would think the 12 should always be the same AM / PM as the last 11 numbers. But it's not. E.g. 1 hour after 11 PM is 12 AM.

[–] CoggyMcFee@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If AM (ante meridiem) means “before midday” and PM (post meridiem) means “after midday”, then I think it makes sense. That doesn’t mean it isn’t confusing, but it makes sense.

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[–] ABCDE@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

In phone numbers we can often mix oh and zero, but you'd very rarely (if ever) use zero in time. Perhaps in the military (or similar organisations): zero/oh six hundred hours. I'd naturally say oh.

When telling the time, I get my students to say: six oh five, three oh eight, five oh two, etc. The alternatives would be 'past' and approximations: five past six, and just after six.

[–] whaleross@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] mysoulishome@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Fifty-five minutes before Seven P.M.

[–] fhek@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Everyone in here saying “5 past 6”.

I’ve been saying “5 after 6” or “6 oh 5” my whole life. I’m from Canada & in my early 30s.

  • 5 after X
  • 10 after X
  • 5/10 to X
  • Quarter after X
  • Quarter to X

Etc.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

In French they say 6 hours 5 minutes, all time is after and no time is to.

So 9:55 would be 9 hours 55 minutes, whereas in English we would say 5 minutes to 10, the French system just seems more consistent.

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[–] TheDoctorDonna@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Same. And I've lived in several places across Canada and it seems to be pretty universal here.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The hour of six, and five minutes past.

[–] umulu@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

You woke up and choose violence? XD

[–] Chickenstalker@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I call it Whiskey time.

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] SolOrion@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Very similarly, I'd probably say '5 past 6'.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

Six and five in the morning - Seis e cinco da manhã

[–] DannyMac@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I say "six oh five," but with numbers, I say "zero" or "oh."

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