this post was submitted on 31 May 2026
515 points (97.6% liked)

Atheism

6273 readers
867 users here now

Community Guide


Archive Today will help you look at paywalled content the way search engines see it.


Statement of Purpose

Acceptable

Unacceptable

Depending on severity, you might be warned before adverse action is taken.

Inadvisable


Application of warnings or bans will be subject to moderator discretion. Feel free to appeal. If changes to the guidelines are necessary, they will be adjusted.


If you vocally harass or discriminate against any individual member, you will be removed.

Likewise, if you are a member, sympathizer or a resemblant of a group that is known to largely hate, mock, discriminate against, and/or want to take lives of any other group of people, and you were provably vocal about your hate, then you you will be banned on sight.

Provable means able to provide proof to the moderation, and, if necessary, to the community.

 ~ /c/nostupidquestions

If you want your space listed in this sidebar and it is especially relevant to the atheist or skeptic communities, PM DancingPickle and we'll have a look!


Connect with Atheists

Help and Support Links

Streaming Media

This is mostly YouTube at the moment. Podcasts and similar media - especially on federated platforms - may also feature here.

Orgs, Blogs, Zines

Mainstream

Bibliography

Start here...

...proceed here.

Proselytize Religion

From Reddit

As a community with an interest in providing the best resources to its members, the following wiki links are provided as historical reference until we can establish our own.

founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS
all 41 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] IAmYouButYouDontKnowYet@reddthat.com 42 points 1 month ago (2 children)

We're already there! ♥️

[–] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I try not to kink shame, but yeah 🤷🏻

[–] YerLam@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

"I've got a chapter full of sins and a whole night of fun planned."

[–] axh@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Look, it says right here, that I should be stoned! I will get stoned this evening"

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 month ago

🎶🎵 Everybody must get stoned! 🎵🎶

[–] DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

I can never understand believing in religion.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Become an atheist so you don't go to hell!

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Become a satanist so when you get there, you're mates with the boss and get a cushy job.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 month ago

God damn it, Kage!
He's gonna make you his sex slave.
You're gonna gargle mayonnaise,
unless we bust a massive monster mamajam...

[–] ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So there's no reason not to kiss, then?

[–] kivihiili@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 month ago

YURI! YURI! YURI!!!!

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 12 points 1 month ago

The dice have been loaded the whole time!

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

During the 20th century, atheism wasn't really a thing except for a few scientists and STEM thinkers. (There was the irreligious, but openly admitting you didn't go to church or care much was frowned upon). All the different Christian institutions diametrically opposed each other, even more than they opposed Islam or Hinduism. Jews were tolerated but disregarded as doing their own thing. And they were going to Hell anyway.

(Oh and there was the Church of Religious Science, which was essentially church for atheists and people who didn't take church seriously. There were also liberal Christian faiths like the Unitarians and the Universalists, who eventually combined into one organization. Most people who might have been liberal Christians these days are instead atheist, agnostic or irreligious. Liberal Christianity still exists but it has a tiny following.)

All the mainline and fundamentalist churches believed as the Roman Catholic Church did, extra Ecclesiam nulla salus. No salvation outside [this] church. Seriously, the Presbyterians thought the Lutherans were going to Hell. The Lutherans thought the Pentacostals were going to Hell. The Pentacostals thought the Baptists were going to Hell and vice versa all around.

Then came 9/11 and, inspired by that event, Richard Dawkins and company founded the New Atheism movement, and so in the aughts, the religious ministries had two new enemies, Islam (mostly radical militant Islam, but the churches didn't distinguish) and rapidly-multiplying atheists, eager to meet their religious brethren on the debate stage.

And suddenly, all the churches were much more tolerant of each other, at least when facing the public. Then there was only one faith: Christianity.

Within their own chambers they still felt the other denominations were deliberate deceptions of Satan, and destined to hellfire, but faith leaders speaking to the public would presume that when they preached (whether condemning Muslims or gays or women or secular society) they spoke for all of Christendom.

And now that's a problem for every denomination that isn't white Evangelical Christian nationalism (which is bleeding out of the US into the rest of the world), since all the more beatitude-minded faiths -- including some evangelists -- don't want to be represented to the rest of the world by Paula White-Cain and Franklin Graham and Robert Jeffress, or for that matter, Jesus Donald Trump.

In fact, Christian scholars are terrified that the current Christian nationalist movement (which actually extends into other denominations, including the Catholicism of all six of the conservative SCOTUS jurists) may end Christianity's reign as a major world religion.

Still, if the ministries were successfully able to chase atheists back into the closet, and non-Christians out of the US borders, they'd just turn on each other much the way Protestants and Catholics warred on each other bloodily across Europe.

[–] Hiro8811@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Also some authors and poets were a atheists, some as big as Dante.

[–] MithranArkanere@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (3 children)

There is no hell in the bible, tho.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yes there is: reading the damn thing! Pun intended.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

You mean to tell me that hell is just Fanfic?

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 2 points 1 month ago

The Outer Darkness!!!

[–] Repelle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Are you just talking about the Old Testament? Cuz yeah it’s not there, but revelations has the whole lake of fire bit and there’s eternal punishment in the gospels

[–] MithranArkanere@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Any mentions of "hell" are mistranslations of something that actually meant "the grave".
For example, some texts claiming Jesus talking about "Gehenna" got translated into "Hades", and that into "Hell" sometimes, but that Jesus was actually talking about the Valley of Hinnom, the garbage dump of Jerusalem. Where they sometimes burned trash (although some exaggerate, saying it was a constant fire, which it wasn't). So basically, "your corpse doesn't go into the cemetery to wait for resurrection, it gets sent to the garbage dump and burns there".

[–] Repelle@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If your argument is that the word isn’t never used then sure, I’ll concede that, but the relevant concepts of eternal punishment and burning are very much there as I pointed out.

[–] MithranArkanere@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But hell isn't "concepts of burning and punishment". It's a very specific place, pretty much like Tartarus or Jahannam, where one's soul goes. There is no such thing in the Bible. It's all a metaphor for one's corpse being thrown in a burning dumpster. There aren't even souls. Those who died are considered to be "sleep", and to be resurrected later, much like in Judaism.

[–] Repelle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If there is burning and eternal punishment it’s a pretty small step from there to “that happens in a place” and “we should name that place”

[–] MithranArkanere@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

The difference is what happens in practice.
They just thought you were 'resting' while dead, and you felt what happened to your body.
The stuff with souls and hell made up later made up a way for your mind to be conscious outside of your body.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

First one there gets drinks!

(The drinks are boiling acid. It is hell, after all. But on the plus side, they have cute little umbrellas in them ... as long as you drink it before the umbrella dissolves.)

[–] SomeoneSomewhere 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If the umbrella dissolves, it's still in the drink. Just a different kind of 'in'.

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 month ago

Finally! I can finally drink my little umbrellas.

[–] ButtermilkBiscuit@feddit.nl 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

***Mormons have entered the chat

[–] scutiger@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

JW also, all the open spots for heaven have already been assigned. Everyone's going to hell.

[–] mech@feddit.org 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I love the idea that God wants to welcome someone to heaven, they deserve it, they've been a good person all their lives, but...
Whoops, sorry, we're overbooked. Looks like it's eternal damnation for you, what a bummer!

[–] Entropy_Pyre@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I heard the JW’s had to hotpatch their lore. Now they just say that there are 144k leaders/elite who will be in charge of the others who get saved. The church membership got too big and the tithing, I’m guessing, was too nice to tell people they’re outta luck.

[–] mech@feddit.org 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not their first version update with breaking changes.
Originally they claimed WW1 was the biblical end of the world.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They've claimed to know when the end of the world is coming multiple times.

And after each date came and went uneventfully, they have become increasingly quiet about those predictions.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

In retrospect, letting us reproduce past 144,000 individuals was probably not the best idea