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[-] FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 105 points 3 months ago

Only in 'Murica would life-saving developments be used to deny people treatment so that some rich cunts can accumulate even more wealth

It's a broken country, and I can't wait to see it fall

[-] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 20 points 3 months ago

Broken implies that this wasn’t the goal.

[-] lavember@programming.dev 4 points 3 months ago

the goal is broken

[-] frunch@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Anything that can be exploited for profit is fair game here. There's hardly anything left at this point, so it's starting to get grizzly

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[-] abrake@lemmy.world 62 points 3 months ago

Alright, if you look at this story from a more reputable source (Reuters), it's quite a bit different. Meta isn't accused of using AI with people's medical information to make early diagnoses and lay them off. Instead,

According to the complaint, Meta used a number of internal AI-assisted systems to score and rank employees ⁠on a ​termination list. Those included "Metamate," a large language model assistant; an employee-trained "second ​brain" that tracked workers' communications and documents; and a productivity score drawn from scanning keystrokes, screen content, emails and browser history, according ​to the lawsuit.

The 26 plaintiffs, who ⁠filed the lawsuit anonymously, are accusing Meta of violating federal and state laws that ban discrimination or retaliation against workers who have disabilities, take medical leave or are ​pregnant. They also claim that Meta failed to test its AI systems for ​bias in ⁠violation of recently adopted California and New York City laws.

So it's still shitty workplace surveillance and discrimination but not the same kind of surveillance and discrimination alleged in the Twitter posts. Meta is using AI to try to rank workers' productivity (on a bunch of shitty metrics) in a way that may discriminate against people with disabilities or who take medical leave or who are pregnant.

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[-] adhdsergio@lemmy.world 45 points 3 months ago

The better question is why does their employer have access to their private medical data

[-] toddestan@lemmy.world 32 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

My understanding is that this isn't what happened.

Meta laid off a bunch of employees. Meta claims they used an AI to gauge employees' productivity as a basis for who they laid off. The employees are accusing Meta of laying off employees who took too much medical leave.

[-] adhdsergio@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

That is more plausible, though still discriminatory

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[-] wewbull@feddit.uk 43 points 3 months ago

Reason 748 on why the US health system is fucked up.

Anywhere else in the world, this saves lives.

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[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

"Technology" under capitalism is a regressive force for violence, theft, and control.

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[-] btsax@reddthat.com 34 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The Supreme Court just ruled that it's not racism unless someone specifically points at an action and says "I'd like to do that racism, please!" and so I expect them to use that precedent to target people with disabilities. "They didn't say it out loud, and even though a policy specifically harmed the disabled, it doesn't count"

Edit. Louisiana v Callais

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louisiana_v._Callais

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

The SC just went to Congress yesterday to beg for money for security. I wonder why they need security if they are doing their jobs?......

[-] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 13 points 3 months ago

Ah you see your honour it can't be illegal, because it's actually more profitable this way, and so conform to the natural order of the brotherhood of the ever rising line (forever may it rise, straight and true)

[-] altphoto@lemmy.today 6 points 3 months ago

This is basically it and how I see it working at places I've worked at. HR gathers information about you and then uses it to fire you when firing you is necessary....when you're no longer needed. So for example if you're an assembly worker and your product is end of production, you're done. Now engineering goes to work on a new trinket and you gotta wait until they are done. But when engineering is done, they're fucked. Now you're king because there's production to be done while engineering scrambles to figure out a new project that management wants to work on.

[-] Darkard@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago

Funny that this isnt even "AI". This is image and pattern recognition software that's been used in medicine for years and years. The AI part is that it's scraping all your medical data together into a single RAG so they can use it to fuck you over as efficiently as possible in the name of making more money.

[-] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 27 points 3 months ago

Pattern recognition was “AI” until LLM took over almost all meaning of the phrase. One of the reasons corporations were supposed to store everything (storage is cheap) was to feed pattern recognition models.

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[-] justsomeguy@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

In general people don't really hate AI itself but the absolute shitcocks in charge of it and their methods of using it.

[-] CannedCairn@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

It's still machine learning

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[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago

The AI part is that it’s scraping all your medical data

TBH that's not "AI" either. In reality there's no such thing as "AI" at all. 100% grift.

[-] x00z@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago
[-] adhdsergio@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago
[-] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

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[-] matlag@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 months ago

It can happen to every and any healthcare system, insurance, institution having data in the cloud: if the host has activities in the US, it's at legal risk of data being demanded under US laws ; if not, there's always the risk of a leak.

That Meta used it so directly is very Meta. But you don't know what your employer has on you thanks to big data. You're in debt? Well, that means you desperately needs the job: no bonus, no raise. You have health issue? Let's put you on the red list: no promotion, favored name in case of layoff. Etc.

[-] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 months ago

Oh look, psychopath CEOs are helping people die faster. And we still do nothing.

[-] GoTeamBoobies@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

This reminds me of the movie Gattaca. A future world where your path in life is heavily influenced based on your genes.

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[-] thatGuyWithGlasses@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Oh thank god I live in a country with universal Healthcare and not in some dystopian syndicalist hellhole. This scenario is unthinkable where I live, AI in medicine is seen here as useful ...

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[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 9 points 3 months ago

How are employers getting a hold of these results?

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[-] Bluedragon012@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Sounds like zuck needs to have irreversible health issues~

[-] matlag@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago

He'll spent billions to treat himself and will still do this kind of shit.
Always remember these people consider themselves above the crowd and think it's completely normal they're treated differently.

[-] Bongles@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 months ago

That's not what they mean.

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[-] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

"Our most pessimistic theories were not bad enough"

[-] Eggman@thelemmy.club 7 points 3 months ago

This is truly sad. If this technology is going to work like claimed in the future and diagnosed early breast cancer in just 5% of people it could help save 32000 people a year and help a lot of people who don't die but have to go though a horrible treatment process.

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[-] GarboDog@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

Lives that can be saved via early treatments, instead used to profile people based on their health conditions, disabilities and other factors ismorbidly sickening, We truly do think that Neural Learning Model can be a strong tool as a data sorting algorithm in health and science, but cannot give us answers itself, only point out things we can’t see

[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 months ago

Allways this, better than "Fuck AI" is "Fuck AI from big corps" (and big greedy corps too)

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago

"Your money or your life."

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