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[–] kmirl@lemmy.world 157 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I don't know how anyone fell for this pump and dump scheme in the first place.

[–] chocrates@piefed.world 86 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I do :(. I'm also worried about which of my 401ks bought in to it too

[–] hayvan@piefed.world 38 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

That's the most outrageous part. The most obviously fraudulent company being given fast track to ~~s&p 500 (although I just read that decision was overturned)~~ NASDAQ100 just reeks of corruption.

EDIT: thanks for the correction. I don't know much about USA or their economic stuff.

[–] SirHaxalot@nord.pub 25 points 1 week ago

It was NASDAQ100 that let SpaceX in. S&P 500 stayed true to their rules which includes waiting at least 1 year after IPO to include it in the portfolio

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[–] Smaile@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago

i monitor my father investing habits to make sure he doesn't fall for shit like this, their have been a few times iv been worried to say the least...

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[–] SirMaple__@lemmy.ca 71 points 1 week ago
[–] blargh513@sh.itjust.works 52 points 1 week ago
[–] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 50 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Seeing musk fail makes me giddy. Seeing people who dumped and lost their money on him makes me giddier. FAFO

[–] the_tab_key@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Unfortunately, a lot of people didn't have a choice in the matter.

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[–] timestatic@feddit.org 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Data centers in space are frankly a ridiculous idea. Can't believe so many wanted in on the IPO. They have cool tech, but nothing that would warrant such a high evaluation for now and the foreseeable future.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 32 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Full self driving datacenters in space

[–] Mihies@programming.dev 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

With a hyperloop link between them

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[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (3 children)

That's because it was severely over valued for a company that produces no product and makes no profit.

To be fair it was a solid pump and dump.

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[–] Folstar@lemmus.org 37 points 1 week ago (6 children)

We ain't seen nothing yet. In 2-3 weeks the Q2 report will release at which 20% of stocks held by employees will be unlocked, which has hit even profitable and not-fantasy-based companies hard in the past. There will also be a wave of resignations from people who cash out and if that takes key people then investors back off even further. My guess is fElon wants the stock to stay high until next summer when he can sell, but he NEEDS it to stay high until November when early investors can cash out. He has borrowed billions from people you wouldn't want to owe $1 and been delaying and juggling for a few years with tacking together this SpaceX nonsense amalgamation.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (3 children)

In 2-3 weeks the Q2 report will release at which 20% of stocks held by employees will be unlocked, which has hit even profitable and not-fantasy-based companies hard in the past.

When you consider the kind of life changing amounts of money even a few thousand shares sell for at current rates, they'd be crazy not to.

My guess is fElon wants the stock to stay high until next summer when he can sell, but he NEEDS it to stay high until November when early investors can cash out

It's fallen maybe 12% since the IPO. You're talking about shares that were trading for a few bucks during the original debt offerings. Marc Andressen has something like a 6000% ROI on his holdings even at current prices.

If this company dropped by 50%, it would still be worth in the $800B range. There's no world in which current shareholders don't make fuckoff amounts of profit. The only question is whether we're talking nine figures or ten.

[–] Folstar@lemmus.org 7 points 1 week ago (17 children)

50% might prove optimistic. The rules that were bent for SpaceX exist for reasons. The August dump will be 4X the shares already in the wild. You are right, employees would be crazy not to sell at current rates. SpaceX employees are probably smart and/or educated enough to read the white papers on all these science fantasy projects and know they are pure fantasy. Cool stuff to fire up investment bros, but not the kind of thing they want to be tasked with trying to make reality. Point being, the floor for what an employee would not sale is going to be really low. True believers might hold, but anyone who smells the BS or just likes money will gleefully sell at 50% of current.

Meanwhile, China is making great strides in VTVL and much cheaper, open source LLMs. The EU is eager to find home grown or at the least not-American tech solutions. Every headline makes SpaceX look less and less likely to make ANY profits, let alone completely dominate supposedly multi-trillion dollar markets.

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[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

It’s fun to laugh at the worst people taking Ls, until one realises that the insiders got to sell up early, leaving retail investors holding the bag, and that these involve not just eminently punchable Musk-idolising incel chuds or even FOXNews grandpas but ordinary working stiffs with pension funds and savings. Chances are everything went exactly to plan and even as Musk lost his very brief trillionaire status, he managed to cash out a lot of his virtual wealth.

[–] timestatic@feddit.org 20 points 1 week ago (2 children)

No, thats just not true. At IPO date there were already many critical voices about the stock being way overvalued for what they charge at IPO. "Insiders" means there was info that was withheld or the public didn't know about. Anyone who bought this stock at IPO asking price was just foolish enough to buy into the hype.

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[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 22 points 1 week ago

Is musk the first person to lose 1 trillion dollars? Quite the honor.

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[–] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 week ago
[–] ulkesh@piefed.social 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Good. Maybe one day the investors will see this idiot for what he is: a greedy racist fascist. And stop investing in his bullshit.

[–] tabris@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

They won't do that. They're also greedy racist fascists. That's what capitalism is.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

he can drop still further

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago
[–] brachiosaurus@mander.xyz 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is the sort of news that achieve nothing and only give this guy visibility

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sell side stock news is usually made to help retail investors lose money. They will pile on to this thing for a few more weeks then reverse it back up to 3 trillion. Rinse wash repeat. And you have infinite money generator 2.0

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[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He's such a loser not even his stock wants to hang around with him

[–] Faithless@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Sadly Here, hé is not a loser. Things happened exactly the way he wanted to. He won big, his idiot fans lost bigger

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[–] mo_lave@reddthat.com 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Prime wallstreetbets material

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[–] Smaile@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

good, we knew it was bloat but it was still annoying af listening to people go "wow a trillionire", fucking wealth glazer are garbage people 9/10 times.

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[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (3 children)

New low is going to become a common phrase for space x. Boldly going where no stock has gone before.

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[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The majority of people who have bought SpaceX stock are now down at LEAST 18% in value.

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[–] eicker@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

The irony is that Musk himself has already cashed out enormous wealth over the years: Whether the stock jumps or drops today barely changes his position. The people really feeling the pain are the retail investors who treated him like an infallible genius instead of managing their own risk.

[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Its everything I hoped for.

[–] abc@suppo.fi 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

I considered buying it when the IPO was but didn't.

Now I'm looking at the comments here and I'm thinking that perhaps now is the time. Lemmy is usually the number one investment source. Just do the exact opposite what people are saying here and you'll be rich.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You want to play meme stocks, you'll get better odds with gas station scratchers.

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[–] spicystraw@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Was this not the plan all along? I thought it was an open secret to open woth high price, let initial investors sell their shares. Let 401K and small-time investors buy it, up and take the fall.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Yep. AI has drained the venture capital well dry. So...

  • You merge xAI with SpaceX to make one profit making company and a loss making company in to a mixed financial bag.
  • Hype "Data-centres in Space" for a good six months to make it seem like it all makes sense.
  • Sell all your compute to Anthropic / Google (with 90-day termination clauses) to get some revenue on the books.
  • Lobby that you're such a good deal S&P and NASDAQ should change their rules to admit entry to their "required to buy" stocks. NASDAQ bites, but S&P refused.
  • IPO: $80B raised from IPO partners (banks) at $135 per share. Job done. No control lost because the share of the company was so low.
  • IPO subscribers (banks) sell to markets at upto $225. Lots of happy bankers. Retail markets (e.g. investment funds) now holds the shares, but it's all good, right? Nasdaq have it listed so there's an enforced buy in two weeks.
  • Stock slides. Enforced buy comes at ~$145 per share and it feels a bit more firm for a day or two.
  • Stock resumes it's slide to below it's IPO price.
  • Stock now sits at $124

Net result:

  • Space X : +$80B
  • IPO subscribers: +$40B...ish
  • Public Shareholders: +5% of SpaceX (Currently $69B) & -$120B
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[–] IEatDaFeesh@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

And they're gonna sprinkle this into our index funds, yay!!

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