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[–] IAmYouButYouDontKnowYet@reddthat.com 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

"hi I'm Linus. I'm 23, and I like computers."

Wtf is with using old pictures of tech guys.

[–] kieron115@startrek.website 1 points 6 days ago

maybe the license was cheaper? idk how getty images works.

[–] natecox@programming.dev 15 points 1 week ago

Glorious leader does not age. His youth and virility are timeless.

[–] cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de 28 points 1 week ago (5 children)

It's a perfectly reasonable position: fork the kernel with a purist no-ai approach and see where it's going. It's literally what open-source is about. No need for a screaming contest, just do the thing you are convinced of and compete for the best solution.

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[–] socsa@piefed.social 21 points 1 week ago (16 children)

Realistically, this is as much about not wanting to police constant AI drama as it is about AI coding utility. Like it or not that cat is out of the bag, but as long as you enforce the same development guidelines in terms of code quality, PR rules and such, the impact should be small. Arguably the bigger issue would come with taking a hardline approach where you inevitably spend a bunch of time arguing over AI accusations. We are already quickly approaching a point where it feels half the Internet is AI, and the other half is arguing about whether something is or isn't AI. That's just not going to work for FOSS development.

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[–] pixxelkick@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (35 children)

Theres a forming deeply uninformed / misinformed loud group of people who desperately want to hate on AI being used for anything, even in scenarios where its actually perfectly good at its job.

Even when extremely seasoned professionals with waaaay more experience are stating "its a perfectly fine tool" these folks somehow cannot wrap their head around the possibility someone like fucking Linus Torvalds might know better than them.

Imagine having the utter balls to assert you know better than Torvalds about whether a technology is good or not 😐

Meanwhile those of us actually in the field have known for over a year now that the tools are pretty good now and very useful.

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 days ago

better than Torvalds

Have you forgotten about Bitkeeper?

[–] natecox@programming.dev 62 points 1 week ago (11 children)

"the only conceivable reason anyone could object is that they're ignorant" is cultish logic. Adding "my hero likes it so it can't be bad" does not help.

Some of us have been "in the field" for decades and don't like these tools for many reasons, including "the output is unacceptable bad" and "the tools are built in unethical and morally deficient ways".

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[–] nagoya@quokk.au 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The fact that some people don’t want to see AI being used to generate code does not make them dumb or misinformed. They may be informed, and simply reached a different conclusion than you.

Also, you have to consider that some of the most popular tools are controlled by a select few and that concentration can be used to control markets and users, reinforce biases, and shape what gets encouraged.

Finally, the use of AI can easily feed into a maximalist view of "produce more and faster" that has direct consequences like layoffs, increased cost of hardware, increased resource usage, increased environmental impact.

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[–] MolochHorridus@piefed.social 19 points 1 week ago

All major operating systems and software has been around before AI. Sure, AI might have some uses, even good ones but not enough to warrant all the negative effects it and all those datacenters running the models have.

Some people just don’t care about the negative effects and Torvalds is obviously one of them.

[–] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 17 points 1 week ago

I hate AI as in, I hate Microsoft, Google, OpenAI, etc. for pushing it everywhere, being an oligopoly, and using it for mass surveillance. But AI as a tool is fantastic for some tasks

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

To be fair, many have had their workplace enshittified by AI, or managers with AI psychosis.

Or fired over it.

Maybe they have family that’s gone down the ChatGPT rabbit hole. I do.

…I think it’s understandable for people to be pissed, and take an absolutionist position, as the leads who see it as a tool seem to be few and far between.

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[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

“Year of the BSD desktop.” ?

[–] Telemachus93@slrpnk.net 13 points 1 week ago

I have found no indication that FreeBSD won't accept LLM-assisted contributions... On their wiki there is a small section about rules for a summer of code event, where they forbid it being used for coding, but just because that event is intended to be about learning... That doesn't sound like a clear "no" to all LLM contributions.

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