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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/49729865

However you look at it age verification is a major change to the internet and our freedoms.

We've seen all kinds of legislation pushed through in the past, often even against major resistance.

What makes me suspicious this time is the speed at which some of the slowest bureaucracies in the world are adopting it and how it's happening in 20+ countries in parallel.

It's like they're all in a group chat, fast-tracking this before resistance can even form.

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[–] 001Guy001@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

They do not care about kids.

-Access to social media is "crucial for supporting youthful political engagement in contemporary democracy", allowing young people to express their political views and be exposed to other people's views, "to experiment with their political voice and to hone it through interaction with others." (https://phys.org/news/2025-01-explores-social-media-tool-young.html)

" “We need to prosecute the perpetrators of online harm and the tech companies that allow horrible things – sextortion, image-based abuse,” [Candice Odgers] says. “It’s horrific for women and for girls – they are 80% to 90% of the victims and tech company owners and developers are 90% male, so we’ve got this fundamental problem in terms of protecting women and girls online.” " / " “The more we make it a forbidden place to spend time, the less likely they are going to tell us what’s happening in those spaces, the less likely they will be to report harms, the less likely we will be to help them...” " / " “For some people, it’s a support community. Tech isn’t really like tobacco. Its effects go in all directions.” " / "Odgers’ response to concerns about adolescents’ time and energy being wasted by addictive algorithms is that governments should be building better communities and physical spaces for children to play and learn; this could be funded, she says, “with a big old tax on tech”. " (https://www.theguardian.com/society/2026/jul/16/psychologist-candice-odgers-kids-tech-mental-health-social-media-bans)

"For LGBTQ+ youth, foster kids, and those stuck in unsupportive home environments, [and other young people dealing with abuse/depression/alienation/isolation/etc.] social media is often the only place to find community, explore their identity, or access life-saving resources. Forcibly removing young people isolates those who need connection the most" (https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/06/how-and-why-fight-back-against-social-media-bans)

-We should ban harmful algorithms - the ones that "are implemented, not with the goal to make us happy or healthy, but to keep us engaged and maybe sell us something" - instead of completely prevent access to platforms. (https://www.fastcompany.com/91136834/new-york-social-media-algorithm-ban)

-We need to have better moderation of harmful content, abuse, hate, harassment, etc., and have a support system to help young people deal with issues they encounter.

"Social media can foster social connections, offer support and community, and provide access to valuable information and resources that help young people gain additional emotional support.." / "Young people can take several practical steps to build resilience and maintain good mental health in the age of social media. It's crucial to promote a balanced approach, empowering them to use these tools in ways that support their wellbeing and minimise potential harm." / "For parents, carers and educators open communication, ongoing education, and a focus on building digital literacy are key to navigating this ever-changing landscape. It’s important to equip children and young people with the skills to navigate the digital world safely and responsibly. This includes teaching them about online safety, critical thinking skills, and how to manage their screen time and social media use." / "Adults can model healthy coping mechanisms and positive mental health practices. This can involve demonstrating self-care, setting boundaries with technology, and talking openly about their own day to day life.." / "In simple terms, listening is golden. It's incredibly powerful, especially for young people. In my 14+ years as a counsellor, I've seen how impactful it is to offer a safe space where children and young people feel truly heard and understood, without judgment. Reducing stigma is equally important, as it encourages young people to seek help without shame and view mental health fluidly. Showing that with the right support and care poor mental health can get better." (https://mhfaengland.org/mhfa-centre/blog/Social-media-and-young-people-Understanding-the-impact-and-offering-support/)

[–] NewOldGuard@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So age verification I.e. completely deanonymized internet usage. Fuck these privacy destroying laws

[–] madeindex@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"For four months, all of us in France will have to prove our age," she told journalists.

[–] kylian0087@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Major step backwards... Anyway tor is free have fun sailing to dark seas where their are no rules. 🫠

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They are going to outlaw VPNs and Tor next.

[–] blackbeans@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What's the source? VPN is used by almost all large corporations on an international scale.

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

won't surprise me if they push for identification to use VPNs. Corporations won't complain. They don't use VPNs for anonymity but security.

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not just ID, they want to read the cleartext, too.

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago

of course they do.

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

The source is simply how other countries are already doing it: blocking known VPN and mandating use of backdoored official VPN. Damage to economy doesn't matter.

[–] madeindex@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

For now fully agreed, however I feel like more is coming: https://mastodon.social/@madeindex/116503944072899687 They are going after anonymity :(

[–] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

At some point a splinternet's gonna happen, and it's gonna happen soon. Big Tech is gonna cause the digital apocalypse.

[–] terabyterex@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

big tech + governments.

[–] architect@thelemmy.club 3 points 1 week ago

PLEASE OH PLEASE

[–] switcheroo@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Parents need to do their job. It isn't our governments job-- or right!!-- to tell us what we can or cannot do online because you'd have to be stupid not to see where this is going...

[–] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 2 points 1 week ago

Big Tech is pushing mass censorship through in a 'protect the kids' trench coat. This is SOPA being snuck through in a kid safety trench coat.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 points 1 week ago

The government job is to reign in out of control elements, like companies releasing products bad for mental health

This isn't about parenting because the goal is not about children. It's about surveillance and control, not even for the government but for a class of technocrats who found a way to subvert democracy