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[-] bananapinball@sh.itjust.works 48 points 1 month ago

You can't compare both. Stark did build an AI.

Claude is simply a statisticaly accurate text generation model..... marketed as AI.

It's like comparing a carburator with oranges.

marketed as AI

Most of the major AI conferences havw similar forms of AI being published. It isn't marketed as such, it quite literally falls under the umbrella.

[-] Strider@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

As much as it pains me, I was going to say that. It sadly is AI by definition.

It's not what I would call AI (by quite some distance) and I long denied it because of that but my definition is not correct.

I'm dying right now at the downvotes I'm getting. I've been to two major AI conferences this year--are you dorks even in the field? XD

Look, AI is just the name of a broad group of strategies loosely categorized by the sorts of difficulties of problems we are working on (domain size, observability, etc.).

Understanding that this tech is part of artificial intelligence is just understanding the taxonomy of AI related subjects in computer science. That's it. It's not an admission that anything is actually smart, especially in a human-like manner.

[-] Strider@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

(just to be clear, you understood I was agreeing, right? 😁)

But nevermind downvotes. The whole voting doesn't make sense to begin with as people are just too different to have a agreeable understanding on what it means and ladzle the topics too.

I knew you were agreeing. I had just come back to find a bunch of downvotes to whether AI is actually AI. XD

[-] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

What makes actual human intelligence that different from a statistically accurate text/movement generation model?

[-] Leviathan@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

I don't compare millions of pieces of data and choose the one that is statistically correct. I analyse a question and answer based off of my understanding of the actual subject.

LLMs don't understand shit, they text match and statistically poop out "correct" answers.

[-] 5ibelius9insterberg@feddit.org 8 points 1 month ago

The statistically accurate arithmetic average dice throw shows a solid 3.5

A dice that always shows 3.5 is bad.

[-] sum_yung_gai@programming.dev -1 points 1 month ago

So determinism? Llms are not deterministic.

[-] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

No, LLMs are deterministic (or probabilistic, if you want to nitpick). We as a species don't have the ability to perform nondeterministic computation - many people theorize it may not even be possible.

[-] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 1 points 1 month ago

We're not even sure human thought is nondeterministic to be fair!

Is there a single reputable psychologist out there who believes that this is how humans operate?

Note, I think that non-human intelligence is entirely possible, just not this particular technology.

[-] Ptsf@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

https://www.anthropic.com/research/global-workspace At a certain level it does seem were using a non deterministic statistical model to at least mimic true intelligence, though honestly nobody knows at this time the boundaries or complete differences. We're still on the bleeding edge of development. Also it's worth noting that most "ai systems" anyone would interact with are actually layers of models, not just a bare llm anymore. Tokenizers, linkers, etc.

[-] DragonAce@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Thats the thing people don't get. Everyone keeps saying "LLMs are not AI", but forget that there is constant repeated layering of models, fliters, linkers, etc.... by developers to make them more efficient. At some point the integration of so many subsystems into one main system, will generate something that appears for all intents and purposes, to be AGI (or at least mimic it to a point where its hard to tell).

[-] Ptsf@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah. We're far far from the days of it just being a simple little language transformer. I don't know if it'll ever have the spark of consciousness, but it's certainly beginning to have the emulation of it.

Now it sounds like I'm talking to an LLM.

You didn't answer my question.

[-] Ptsf@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Didn't know I was supposed to answer your question like a fucking llm. Figured this was a comment section for discussion. 🤷‍♂️

[-] Ptsf@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Nah, you're just not worth it. Enjoy your assumptions and being a dick to people online.

[-] execam@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

You can be intelligent without being good at writing. However AI relies on text

[-] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

Good point. What do we rely on?

[-] dreamkeeper@literature.cafe 2 points 1 month ago

Not everyone thinks with words. You're grasping at straws.

[-] pressanykeynow@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

No, that was a genuine question. Not words, not images, or any other feelings. So I wonder how is our information(memories) stored and processed.

[-] Uruanna@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Ask animals.

[-] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

His name is Clippy, okay? Also I think he was introduced in Office '97, not Windows 98.

Ah, indeed.

[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 6 points 1 month ago

Tony Stark also made Ultron (another AI) and that didn't turn out well.

[-] deft@lemmy.wtf 8 points 1 month ago

Why? What was wrong with Ultron?

Oh he decided humanity needed to be wiped out for peace?

I'm sorry I'm still not following. What's wrong with Ultron?

[-] NoodlePoint@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

I remember reading how Stark was originally conceptualized as an antihero, an unlikeable character doing the most unlikeable business, that is, as a showy arms industrialist at the height of the Vietnam War.

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