Arch really isn't that bad when you're not mucking around with the AUR. Debian is a little overkill for most normal users in respect to stability but it's good people have the freedom to do whatever the heck they want with their machines.

Ok so at first I thought it was actually kind of cute and endearing but by the end I think that guy is an asshole

And then there's Fedora in the corner, quietly getting the best of both worlds.

ex arch user for 5 yrs

current fedora user since 2024

i've been getting a lot of "recommended" youtube videos on gentoo and nixos

send help plezz

CachyOS + Flathub (Bazaar) = not a single problem since I've started using it. But if I had to go to something more "stable", I think I'd go for Bazzite.

Code is a mass noun, and as such it's a shibboleth. People who "open a code" have no idea what they are doing.

Never had a system breaking update. Idk what arch people be using.

Tell that to Valve.

I've had infinitely more issues with "apt upgrade" than "pacman -Syu"

Been using CachyOS as a daily driver for a year now, for dev work, office work and some media work. It's helped to eek out some extra performance thanks to using build flags for system packages that are built according to modern CPUs.

Would I recommend or for newcomers? Not really. But that's because it still does require using the terminal for system management. But they're also working on fixing that.

I found Arch Linux to be less maintenance that Debian/Ubuntu, but then again I need to tweak every aspect of my system and both Debian and Ubuntu keep getting in my way. For example Firefox now requires snap on Ubuntu systems, and Debian requires that I maintain my own version of Pipewire if I want decent sound on my earbuds. Also Apt/dpkg does seem to break a lot.

I also had issues with Manjaro and SteamOS due to system packages being a version or two behind vanilla Arch, which breaks things when you install AUR packages. That being said I have used both Garuda Linux and CachyOS and I've liked both. They get that balance between not requiring that I setup everything myself, while not getting in my way when I want to tinker.

Someone struggled to install Arch (me).

Early on in Linux journey rolling distros are great.

I started my Linux journey with a rolling distro and I'm thankful for that. It broke every other day I spend hours upon hours on stackoverflow and other forums trying to find solutions and to fix it. That led to understanding linux in general to a greater depth. I'm now on a stable distro because I've a job now but I was only able to land that job because I knew Linux well enough. I know even after 10+ years I'm nowhere near the level others are at but it's about the journey and not the destination. I've grown along the way.

And if I'm a windows normie that's sick of windows windowing, I'll be fine using mint... Right? Y'all are good at making this sound very complex.

Arch Linux isn’t actually hard to use, just a pain to set up, but still of you want an arch set up but the convenience like anyone else then use a fork of arch. We’re use Cachy mostly cuz we enjoy the plug and play. No hassle no issues. Though think pads are peak.

What has never worked for us was Ubuntu, haven’t tried Debian tho

I think Fedora is best of both worlds, if you want something closer to current Linux kernels/mesa for things like gaming, but don't want to run a rolling release distro like Arch. Been running Fedora for about a year now and couldn't be happier with the transition.

That said, if you aren't gaming and just want absolute stability, no matter what, Mint or Debian ARE the go-to solutions to use. They are the Toyota Hilux of distros.

This assumes that I update more than once in a lifetime.

I have my arch install on my home server running for over 10 years and update maybe once a month. It’s very stable.

I‘ve been using Arch for round about 13 years now, and, depending on your setup, manual interventions after an update are only required very rarely + they are usually documented on the arch website, so you get an exact step-by-step guide on what to do (which has always been super easy and quick to do). I would consider arch to be a very stable experience in the long term. That being said, I really don’t get where people are getting their information from that arch is a heavy time consuming unstable mess.

I've used debian and arch. Only on debian have I discovered my wifi driver wasn't yet supported. Only on debian have I turned on a server that I'd left off for a bit and abruptly discovered packages and updates no longer worked due to end of support and that I couldn't run dist-upgrade without them. I've had to do more major surgery on apt then I've ever done with pacman.

I was on Arch for two years, then on nix for another two (to be fair, now I can say I liked Arch better). After that I recently went back to fedora (which I used before I switched to arch), because I decided that if any problems show up on my pc I want it to be 99% not my fault. I basically learned to value stability over versitality, even though that's kind of the opposite of why I started using linux in the first place lol

I have been running rolling release with openSUSE Tumbleweed for +7 years, almost 0 issues when updating anything, I even had more troubles when I was running Ubuntu or PopOS.

That post is just pure rage bait to get interactions/clicks and he succeded, now he appeared on Lemmy.

I didn't know that nixCraft was stupid, but now I will keep that in mind, so thank you for the heads up.

These types of posts are such rage bait. It makes me sad that they actually work.