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[–] eicker@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

We’re reaching a point where the interesting part isn’t just whether an AI found the proof: it’s whether anyone outside the company can reproduce the result. Publishing Lean proofs is great. Keeping the model closed means the process stays a black box.

[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't understand enough about math and lean proofs - do you mean it's possible nobody can interpret and explain how the proof goes in "human language"?

[–] eicker@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The impressive part isn’t that an AI produced a proof, it’s that Lean lets everyone verify it. The frustrating part is the model stays closed. Science advances fastest when others can reproduce both the result and the method, not just inspect the finished homework.

[–] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

But they do plan to release the Astra model to the public "after it's finished" I assume?

And yeah this Lean software sounds amazing, didn't know this was possible.

I misread your last sentence in a way that create a different problem: Imagine AI starts producing more and more proofs at a pace that humans can't keep up with. So science advances, and humans can even make use of it, but can't verify or really understand the theory any more. Like we get better working machines, materials and processes, but do not understand why because we can't keep up. If that happened then that I guess would a significant stage in the singularity.

[–] eicker@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It would be surprising if they didn’t release Astra. And yes, we’re living in crazy times.

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 week ago

Ok so? Do the proofs hold up or not?

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

The question is: are those real proofs, or just AI reasoning bugs again?

[–] jobbies@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

In other words its all marketing bullshit.

[–] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 24 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

So youre suggesting they secretly have Einstein standing in the server rack, making loud fan noises with his mouth and just typing really fast?

Either the problems were solved or they weren't. If they were, then that's evidence enough; doesn't matter if they model isn't publicly available.

Having those sudden breakthroughs come from a person or even a large group of mathematicians, suddenly and all at once, would be more surprising than a well-harnessed LLM figuring it out.

With that said, I'm curious about peer review of the actual proofs. Just because Lean builds them doesn't mean they're materially valid. It could very well be that it's completely wrong and it just hallucinated well enough to fool OpenAI into publishing it, which would be a hilarious egg-on-face moment

[–] iconic_admin@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

I agree with you. If it solved it, it solved it. The title is an odd phrasing.

[–] RumRunningDevil@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

A few of the erdos problems have been independently verified. It's legit.

The thumbnail itself is the silliest ai shit. So his shirt becomes his arm then turns into his shirt at the wrist. And thats why these idiots are so mad. They are too stupid to see how actively bad it all is, but that's your fault for being perceptive, not theirs for being a compulsory idiot. These people are so lucky breathing doesn't require critical thought.

To believe anything these companies claim about their model is to demonstrate you're a gullible simpleton. You're exactly the type of non-critical thinker they need to thrive.