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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

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https://gwern.net/guardian-angel - personal digital twins

this reads like a less addled version of Steve Yegge, but the same genre

headline source: https://xcancel.com/willdepue/status/2084750925013434768

hackernews loves it of course https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49174900

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[–] theodoraward@awful.systems 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

GPT, mind, personality, imitation learning, Decision Transformer, Guardian Angel, AI mode collapse, AI safety, transhumanism


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[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 5 points 6 days ago

🎶 we didn't start the fire 🎶

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

if Gwern is not a pasty white dude with a degree from a top-level US university I will eat my hat

also the probability we can match their now-revealed identity to past far-right/racist content that's not been scrubbed is very close to 1

[–] YouKnowWhoTheFuckIAM@awful.systems 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

with a degree from a top-level US university I

why do people feel the need to address gwern as somebody smart?

i have never seen him say anything smart

he mostly seems angry about very autistic and occasionally racist stuff

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 1 points 1 week ago

could be a legacy admittant

[–] YouKnowWhoTheFuckIAM@awful.systems 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] dgerard@awful.systems 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

well, somewhat. about as readable.

[–] YouKnowWhoTheFuckIAM@awful.systems 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

oh i meant more in the sense of “what am i letting myself in for when i look up that name”?

[–] anise@awful.systems 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

it's the guy who built gas town, he wrote decent blog posts once but got completely got by ai bullshit some time ago

[–] YouKnowWhoTheFuckIAM@awful.systems 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

i dunno what that is, i can barely programme html lol, i just hated yudkowsky ten years ago and now here i am

i don’t especially follow particular developments in ai beyond getting a sufficient sense of the overall trajectory of the scam

[–] it_wasnt_arson@awful.systems 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Gas Town is the weird slop-illustrated hype post from a while back about creating a sort of corporate org chart of LLMs prompting each other. Basic ideas like "what if you had developer LLMs and project manager LLMs and a COO LLM and they all roleplayed with each other" got their own obfuscatory Mad Max themed names to make the whole thing seem more exciting and innovative, and I seem to remember a sentence along the lines of "This is not for anyone for whom token costs are an object." Obviously this was the coolest thing to have ever hit the orange site for a few weeks afterward.

[–] YouKnowWhoTheFuckIAM@awful.systems 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

what’s “the organge site”?

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] YouKnowWhoTheFuckIAM@awful.systems 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

it was a terrible lie! i actually did knw that one