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There is no date of arrival for the motorola yet. I only read beginning of 2027. That could also be delayed. And if it is a phone with underwhelming specs, I wouldn't want to buy it either. But buying a pixel now means not buying a motorola soon.

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[–] SatyrSack@quokk.au 3 points 1 hour ago

It all depends on how badly you need a new phone. My current Pixel is perfectly serviceable, so I have no problem waiting to see what Motorola eventually has to offer. My current phone will almost certainly suffice until then.

With that said, if my current phone was actually broken or whatever, I would probably buy a cheap/old/used Pixel to tide me over until the Motorola reveal.

[–] mrnngglry@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 hour ago

Unless I needed a replacement now, I would wait. It’ll be the first phone designed with GOS in mind but also Motorola’s recent track record isn’t amazing. I’m also hoping they have multiple phones supporting GOS. If initial reviews aren’t great, then refurbished Pixel it is.

[–] blight@piefed.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 hour ago

I'm waiting. Not only because I'd rather use Motorola over Google, but also because I want to wait and see how the EU ID apps will work on GrapheneOS. If it won't work on GOS (which seems quite likely as of today), then I will ditch the phone as a social medium entirely and only use it for ID, banking apps and other proprietary garbage society forces upon me. I'd relegate my social life to a portable laptop or something, on which I have a far greater control of the software.

[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 hours ago

If you have an ok phone now, there's no need for a new one unless it's interesting. I'd wait to see about the moto graphene phone. I'm quite happy with low end moto hardware (G series) but they will probably screw up and make the graphene phone a flagship, as someone mentioned.

[–] modem_down@thebrainbin.org 9 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

If you want GrapheneOS without funding Google, why not get a secondhand Pixel?

[–] nfreak@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 hour ago

This is what I did but you do need to be careful with it - in the US ar least you can't unlock the bootloader on a Verizon-issued pixel which are very common. Always ask the seller where they got it from, since most wouldn't be technical enough to check the bootloader for you

[–] pmk@piefed.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

I've had to accept that I'm too careless to have expensive phones, and I don't need new hardware, so I'm staying at the oldest supported pixel and upgrading in that area second-hand. Currently I have a pixel 6a (with a cracked screen...), but might move to a pixel 8 next year. Somehow I wish I could support Fairphone, but I keep reading things like people having issues with it and I want my phone to "just work", and graphene has been great for that.

[–] Melobol@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 hours ago

I'm hopeful. I want my next phone without Google or Samsung - and I really hope Motorola will deliver their promises.
And also that the upcoming phone have to have an extendable storage for me to buy. It is my main principle - unfortunately I had to give up on headphone jacks...

[–] python@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

I used to really like Motorola but their lineup has really gone down the drain in the last few years. The last Motorola I had was a Moto G100 (2021) and I was reasonably happy with it until the battery started expanding in early 2025. When I tried looking for a new Motorola at that time I didn't find anything that didn't have completely disappointing specs, so I went with a Pixel 9 pro specifically for GrapheneOS. It was a really good upgrade. The camera is much better, the battery lasts longer and has fast-charging and wireless charging. I hope I won't be needing a new phone for the next few years but if I needed one right now I probably wouldn't go with a Motorola, even if I could keep using GOS on it.

[–] inlandempire@jlai.lu 5 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Same situation (current phone is dying) so I'll be watching this thread as well, sorry I cant contribute with an answer

I'm thinking of waiting for the actual specs of the Motorolla to make a decision, I don't want to give Google my money so a refubished Pixel is my other option

[–] anzo@programming.dev 5 points 3 hours ago

I am precisely doing that since my xiaomi drowned last month. Got myself a spare/ secondary phone that happens to be my primary at the moment. It has another feature I wanted to try: an eink screen, black and white, easy on my eyes (model: bigme hibreak).

I am happy with my decision :) it's like a digital detox in its own way... Most of my app consumption was text > sound >> video, and the latter doesn't look bad at all anyway, so... here we are. Only some content received via Whatsapp but I use the web version at my pc most of the day (e.g. videos of my family or photos from friends)

[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

need a phone ? buy a used Pixel ?

[–] blight@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 hour ago

Depends heavily on the country. Most used phones in Sweden are sold at MSRP, sometimes even more expensive. Recycling and second hand is very popular, even clothes are more expensive than if you were buying new in stores. It's just not worth it economically, it's only worth it if you're doing it for ideological or moral reasons (e.g. sustainability).

[–] determinist@kbin.earth 3 points 3 hours ago

i bought a used 8 pro

[–] artyom@piefed.social 4 points 4 hours ago

It's nice to have some other choices but, given all the current legislation suddenly appearing about requiring vendors to identify users, I think there's a good chance Motorola is rethinking this decision.

[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago

I'm sitting on my Pixel 8 until I can compare the Moto Graphene phone and the next Fairphone. If I'm going to get subpar performance relative to Apple and Qualcomm, I'm going to at least get a removable battery in exchange. I want wired video out, which disqualifies the Fairphone 6.

[–] Toryu122@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago

Maybe, but probaby not gonna budget friendly, because of GOS hardware requirements for security and we all know how overprice a Pixel phone is

[–] eremophila@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 hours ago

Only on motorola flagships afaik, so no way in hell.

I like the idea of graphene, but I would never buy a google phone to degoogle, because logic. I already own a low end motorola, I'm not a fan of the brand.

[–] willington@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I am waiting for now, for me, since I already have a phone. That said, if it's the difference between zero connection and the status quo, I would just buy something now. The status quo is better than nothing at all. But once Graphene'd Motorola comes out, it's a no brainer purchace for anyone who wants to own their device in deed and not just on paper.

[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

Motorola hasn’t released a good phone in decades and I wouldn’t expect them to get this one right.

Google and their fans are a bit insane considering the new Pixels are giving iPhone 11 performance at iPhone 17 Pro pricing. And you still pay with your personal data. Make it make sense.

If you don’t trust Apple, I’m really not sure what to tell you. You could get s handheld Mac… or you could take your chances with something far less reputable and hope. Nothing and OnePlus seem promising, but they also seem to under-deliver. I’d also be looking into the “Linux phones,” though I think those are just Android in disguise since they run Android apps?

At some point, you’re gonna get a cheap smartphone and not care what it runs because you don’t put any personal data on it, you just use it as a hotspot for a laptop running Linux, and you make calls through some web service.

[–] artyom@piefed.social 5 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

What if I told you that some people aren't gaming on their phones at all and couldn't care less about the performance?

[–] cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 45 minutes ago

I would tell you you're preaching to the choir. I'm not gaming on my phone.

Still, if I'm paying iPhone 17 Pro prices, I better be getting iPhone 17 Pro performance. I'm looking at the Pixel 10/11 Pro and I'm looking over at my Galaxy S10 and thinking "what's the difference"?

If you couldn't care less about the performance, save a few hundred bucks and get a mid-ranger. Or just throw more money at Google. Your money, not mine. I didn't earn it. I'm just saying "make it make sense." Which they can't.

[–] mustbe3to20signs@feddit.org 6 points 3 hours ago

To the Linux phone point: They are real, not just disguised Androids. Most mobile distributions make use of Waydroid, a containerized Android. Also there's Android Translation Layer. Jolla uses its proprietary AppSupport.

[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 hours ago

though I think those are just Android in disguise since they run Android apps?

They aren't. They use something like Wine to translate the apps.