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[–] TheRoxyWC2@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Excellent. May his orange jumpsuit soon follow.

[–] SaltySalamander@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm just sad that federal mugshots aren't made public.

[–] Perdendosi@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

No mugshot "because the president is recognizable." I guess that's a thing, though I've never heard of it being used before.

[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

The president certainly is recognizable ... thing is, he's a dead ringer for Joe Biden.

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[–] hellothisisdog@yiffit.net 56 points 1 year ago (5 children)

he pleaded not guilty. and his lawyer said this is "an attack on america".

'cause he had boxes of papers he wasn't supposed to have, that this is an attack on america? yeah, okay 🙄

[–] squid010@beehaw.org 13 points 1 year ago (4 children)

This is gonna be wild... the feds hardly ever lose.

With that, I'm very curious to see the fallout should he be convicted.

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@beehaw.org 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

i'm a little worried some of his cultists may find their way onto the jury and block a conviction

[–] Spitfire@pawb.social 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

All it takes is one. They’ll refuse to consider anything other than not guilty.

[–] tate@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 year ago

the rest of the jury can ask the judge to remove one who is not deliberating in good faith

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[–] reverendsteveii@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

they have him on tape showing people documents that he says are classified and that he also knows that he could have declassified them while in office but that he hasn't.

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[–] idle@158436977.xyz 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The whataboutism will be endless as well

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] MothBookkeeper@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

He's just a walking blizzard of dishonesty.

[–] Spitfire@pawb.social 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I work with many people who are so upset over this, calling it injustice and how horrible that we choose to prosecute Trump when we should instead be jailing Hillary, Harris, and Biden.

I bite my tongue and don’t say anything but it’s so frustrating.

[–] awake01@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As far as Hillary goes I am not sure why Trump's DoJ didn't hand down an indictment if it had evidence that she ultimately committed a crime? I guess the same is true for Hunter.

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[–] bouncing@partizle.com 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

his lawyer said this is “an attack on america”.

I'm wondering if the lawyers who quit did so because they were too embarrassed to say shit like that in court, despite a certain client's demands.

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[–] metaltoilet@beehaw.org 39 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This title is a little misleading. No, Trump has not been arrested but he did appear in court. He is not in any form of jail (yet).

[–] Lowbird@beehaw.org 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We need one of those mod appliable (or vote-appliable?) "Misleading title" or "headline altered" tags maybe

[–] MothBookkeeper@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

The headline was not altered.

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[–] liontigerwings@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 year ago

Biden returned the documents before they even know they were gone and he was the one who told them he had them. Trump refused to return the documents when they were requested back and he is caught on tape admitting to knowing he wasn't supposed to have them. Also he asked his lawyers to destroy evidence.

Huge difference between a crime with someone cooperating and someone who tries to destroy evidence. Also the content of trump's documents seem like they're higher level and more highly classified.

[–] collegefurtrader@discuss.tchncs.de 35 points 1 year ago (3 children)

the Justice Department recommended the defendants be released with no financial or special conditions as they aren't a "flight risk."

Being “arrested” is not the way I remember it

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[–] briongloid@aussie.zone 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

I guess it's already happened, but this time seems like a bigger deal.

[–] Perdendosi@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

This is a bigger deal. These federal charges are way more serious than what he's facing in New York.

[–] squid010@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago

This is the biggest deal, imo. Having nuclear secrets, audio of him admitting he was breaking the law - and the public knowing about that, to me says they have much more ammo they'll be bringing to light in trial. I think he's screwed. I don't want to hold my breath, but this seems like it will really take him down.

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 year ago

This is a bigger deal. Telling authorities you don't have top secret classified documents at your residence and allowing them to search certain rooms and then having them come back later with a warrant and finding them hidden in a bathroom (that they weren't allowed into originally) is really really bad.

It makes his other charge of using campaign donations for personal reasons look like jaywalking.

[–] Perdendosi@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

He was processed in New York, too. I'm going to guess that he's going to go through this process at least once more (in Georgia). I don't think he'll need to be fingerprinted and processed again if there are other federal charges while these are pending, but charges related to Jan. 6 might change his bail or conditions of release.

[–] cabbagee@sopuli.xyz 24 points 1 year ago (8 children)

AP news says Trump will be released without bond

Trump will be released without having to pay a bond. He will not have to surrender his passport or restrict his personal travel.

[–] Domiku@beehaw.org 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Meanwhile, someone allegedly steals a backpack in NYC and languishes in jail for years, then dies without ever having their trial.

[–] hellothisisdog@yiffit.net 11 points 1 year ago

that is so infuriating to me. no one should be above the law; trump and his cronies say the same thing. with so many americans getting profiled and wrongfully arrested and sentenced this makes me beyond angry

[–] MJBrune@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago

So under arrest really means he checked into the courts and said "Yup, I am fighting this legal charge." and walked away.

[–] 018118055@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] MachineTeaching@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well tbh both his ego and his bank account command him to try to run for president again so I don't see him fleeing.

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[–] Jenga@beehaw.org 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So much unprecedented stuff has happened since his term, but I don't think anyway was ever confident he would actually stand trial for a federal jury.

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[–] lysy@szmer.info 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Cool, but remove this caps lock please.

[–] MothBookkeeper@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's the original formatting from the news site. And anyway, if I wanted to format it differently, I would have.

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[–] Gazumbo@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago

It's in Trump tweet font

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[–] LurkerCandado@programming.dev 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

A little on a tangent here but...

I'm guessing News and World news will, again and like in Reddit, be actually USANews. Let's see what the fediverse and instances do bring to that issue.

[–] AbidanYre@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That would probably depend on which instance you're using.

Unless I'm misunderstanding how this all works.

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[–] EnigmaNL@feddit.nl 14 points 1 year ago

Lock him up!

[–] MedicPigBabySaver@voxpop.social 13 points 1 year ago

Fucker needs to rot in prison!

[–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Desinformation. Trump has not been arrested.

[–] DrDeadCrash@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He was arrested, booked, fingerprinted, and formally charged on 37 counts then released on the condition that he avoid contact with potential witnesses in his upcoming trial.

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[–] HikerAdam@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

Justice.

Don't care who it is, I,D,R,G,L, you break the law to this extent you get punished.

Nobody is above the law.

[–] NoName977@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I am from Poland and didn't really follow the whole case. Can someone explain me why there is a thread that he will be arrested? It is hard to find the origin as the whole case exploded.

[–] cptnflinty 19 points 1 year ago

He took top secret documents when he left the white house. They don't belong to him, they're meant to be secured in the library of congress or something. Anyway, librarians tried to get them back, he said no, did a bunch of illegal shit (including flashing them around people he wanted to impress) so FBI got involved, raided his place, found more secret documents, special prosecutor was appointed who took ages really nailing the iron clad case together. Now he been arraigned in court facing federal charges. Because Trumps a dumb shit.

[–] kiku123@feddit.de 17 points 1 year ago

There's a LegalEagle video which sums it up: Trump's Bombshell Federal Document Indictment

Essentially,

  • Trump took classified information during his time as president and failed to return them
  • When asked to return them he failed to comply until forced
  • When forced to comply, he still kept many documents the government knew were missing and lied to the government and his lawyers indicating that they were returned
  • Was caught on tape admitting that he knew they were classified and that it was wrong for him to have them

The first bullet point apparently happens often (Biden, Pence, Hillary have all done similarly in the past). Trump is singular in that he didn't readily comply with the request for the return of documents and the consequent lies to the government (also illegal).

[–] Plume@beehaw.org 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'd like to see him manage to wiggle his way out of this one. I'm not American so I'm not familiar with the systems in place and all, but from everything I've seen, well... it's not looking good for him. At all.

But honestly, with Trump legendary incompetence and ability to keep on digging his own grave, I'm barely here for the politics, this is just good entertainment at this point. Even if I know that while this is funny, this will probably be remembered as anything but.

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[–] sexy_peach@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I like everything that inconveniences him, even though I am not entirely sure they will get him this time. He's kinda rich after all and that's how it is.

[–] Zymii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Being rich isn't as much of a defense when you've pissed off the DoD and there's recorded audio of you admitting you have illegally held nuclear secrets after lying and saying you didn't.

I get the worry though.

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[–] axibzllmbo@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I don't want to get my hopes up, but this feels very "end of the line" for him.

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