So meanwhile, has he gotten the healthcare yet that United denied him?? Let us not forget that was the impetus of his prison martyrdom.
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My god they're going to imprison the poor guy forever without a trial, won't they?
The feds didn't get him on murder. My first thought when I saw this is that he has very clever defense attorneys that at least managed to frustrate the state prosecutors by having him plead to a federal non-murder charge that could shut down the State murder case through double jeopardy.
I can't remember any other time in my life that I've been hoping somebody would get off on a technicality
As a conspiracy theorist: The bigger question is, I wonder what they're distracting us from this week? They're gonna hold him to use his presence as a distraction when they need one. Other than that, he is a suspected murderer and they'll use that as the official reason for holding him but we all know, deep down inside, he's now a tool to be used to distract us.
So we should all be asking the questions: Who are we invading this week? Where's the next biggest arsenal shipment heading? Who's going to be teaming up with Israel this week? Is Germany teaming up with Israel the will of the US or is it defeatism?
What is going on that they just plopped him into the news?
They cannot do that. If they aren't going to try him, they must release him.
You must be new here. That's not how the American ~~justice~~ punishment system works.
Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s office said in a statement that it would fight efforts to end the state case, in part because Mangione’s federal sentence isn’t yet known.
Compared with federal law and that of other states, New York has uncommonly strong protections for defendants facing multiple prosecutions. A state prosecution can be barred if a federal case involving the same course of conduct or criminal transaction ends in a guilty plea or if a jury is sworn.
Pleading guilty was some deep strategy by his team. It's going to be so fucking hilarious when he gets off state charges because of double jeopardy.
Maybe that's why they were so quick to reverse course on the insanity plea or whatever.
The rich fear jury nullification will encourage more justice, so they made up some bullshit.
Confused here.
So it's to plead guilty to a lesser sentence, so in attempt to void the same crime with a heavier sentence?
Pretty much ya. Specifically because the state murder charges are in NY. This wouldn't fly everywhere.
Well, this man will never be tried.
Good. He did nothing wrong
But he will also be stuck as prisoner of this farce of a justice system for ever.
What does this mean for the non-lawyers still curious?
It means he gets double points if he guesses the right question based on the answer
This is the half I do know and also why I'm still lost!🤬
Double jeopardy is being charged with the same crime twice.
His lawyers are arguing that because he has already pled guilty to the federal charges of “interstate stalking resulting in death,” and “cyber stalking resulting in death” that the state charges of second degree murder, weapons possession and false identification should be dismissed.
The state prosecutors are arguing that the state charges are different enough that they should be allowed to go forward with the state trial as well.
Usually all the parts of a single crime that result in separate charges count as the same incident for purposes of double jeopardy.
Orange hater here: it’s worth pointing out that the federal charges came after the pedopres put pressure on the DOJ to ensure that there would be federal charges on top of the state charges.
Anything the orange turd touches dies.
The honest answer is basically you can't be tried twice for the same crime. Say someone is found dead, the police think you did it, you go on trial and found innocent, the police can't just put you on another trial hoping for a different verdict.
Can’t be tried for the same crime twice. So if he pleads guilty in federal court then he can’t be tried again in state court.