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oh hey I just saw that. You went into an anarchist space because there was a mean meme about communism and decided to praise China.
Also rule five:
if you post angry replies you will get made fun of
Womp womp
Well it’s not a mean meme about communism. It’s a meme about the fact that China isn’t communist.
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Well, I gotta err on YDI with this one.
You went hard in a meme community that specifically has rules against what you did. Like, it doesn't matter if you're right or wrong, it doesn't even matter that the mod was a prick about it (though that would usually lean harder to PTB in a borderline issue) and breaking their own rules by doing so.
I sympathize to some degree since a ban is a tad harsh for a first offense when the fediverse is harder to verify rules in than reddit was/is. But it's on the user to do so, or accept the consequences when we don't. I've had bans for just that reason; didn't mean to cause a problem, but didn't verify rules. You gotta suck it up and move on ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I wouldn't say a ban is a harsh result, they literally went into the comm with the intent to violate the rules, then sealioned. "Fuck off, troll" is usually what you write in the modlogs on that
You violated the communities rules apologizing for capitalists and an authoritarian state. Why would you think that this rhetoric would be welcome there? Because you identify as a leftist? I got news for you, anarchists have freedom of association and we don't need to put up with tankie bullshit. YDM.
where does it say that capitalist apologya is banned?
I don't disagree with your point or POV, but you went to an anarchist comm and confronted them over their distaste for China. They're allowed to mod their comm against ML discourse. There are plenty of other spaces for MLs or left unity on these instances.
It's better to let them have their spaces then antagonize. Catch more flies with honey, etc etc
Left Unity is always “do what we want or you’re a cia shitlib”. A huge red flag whenever a tankie talks about it.
Sure, but the alternative is often "condemn every implementation of socialism except the failed experiments in Ukraine and Catalonia or else you're a red fascist".
Left unity is just supposed to be about focusing on building communism over sectarianism. Going into that space and immediately starting to go on a tirade about China or something is pretty much the same thing this post is about but from the other side.
Not everyone on the left wants to build communism, I want to build anarchism. And I want to do that through not empowering authoritarian governments, even if they are a mythological dictatorship of the proletariat.
We can agree on fighting capitalism and fascism, but when the disagreement is on authority things fall apart. Which is why I don’t call for left unity, I call for unity with anti-authoritarians.
Left Unity is a saying for Marxists, because it never translates to what we’re fighting for.
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> AGITPROP< memes for anarchist dreams
memes that glorify states will be removed
if you post angry replies you will get made fun of
what part of agitprop anarchist memes didn't you understand? now you're gonna end up on Tankiejerk too just for being whiny about it lol
questioning the CIA narrative will get you banned
ur a CIA narrative
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YDM
Rule 1: memes only please, serious discussion is for other comms
You proceeded to try and have a serious discussion in response to a meme.
I see you were banned for capitalist apologia. I strongly suspect the mod was making fun of you, because you think of yourself as a leftist, when they banned you for that.
My response I would have posted: ... But if we’re going to honestly talk about China we have to also address the industrial/economic “miracle”
No.
This is a sub for discussing if a ban was justified, not the Chinese economy. The relevant rule you're ignoring here:
Keep the comments in YPTB posts about the moderation action itself, not about the general topic in which the moderation took place.
Once again you're ignoring community rules, to drone on about the Chinese economy and how great China is.
It's tedious. I think you should be banned here too. I wouldn't invite you to my birthday party, even if someone was paying me.
whole process people’s democracy
What even is that? The Wikipedia Article sounda super vague and / or shitty
I think it's best described as a philosophy that permeates their whole system of government.
I think these examples are illustrative of the principle in action:
- The Five-Year Plans aren't just dreamed up by Xi Jinping, there's a nationwide consultation process that starts from the bottom and builds up to a presentation for approval at the "Two Sessions". That's part of why they have so much internal legitimacy and why they tend to get accomplished
- they have a number code (like 911 in the USA) except it's for reporting minor city life issues like potholes and downed branches. Residents use it because they see the reported problems get fixed quickly
- the cornerstone of the rural poverty alleviation program was making ground-level Party members individually responsible for specific families, meaning their career advancement opportunities were directly dependent on how well their families were doing getting out of poverty
There's so much more but those are the quick examples that came to mind
Thank you for writing that out.
Still sounds vague to me necause the actual process if decision making is not explained in a way that I can follow. Not just in your comment but also in the Wikipedia article.
Like I understand the how the ideal process works in liberal democracy, how consensus decision making in small groups work or how a union in western europe makes decision. There are clear processes outlined and I am aware of atleast some of the informal things happening that could influence a decision.
For me it would be helpful to have a transparent process explained that shows the for example how the nationwide consultation gets made and how its results get analyzed and put into the 5 years plan.
It is hard to get a good understanding using only resources in English, unfortunately (my Mandarin is toddler-level at best)
I have been looking around for some sources and I think these 2 are the best place to start based on your question:
- This video by Ben Norton is a little long but very good
- This is a search I did at "ProleWiki" which is one of the best places to get info "outside of the media bubble" I plan on reading about 5 links from that list, we will see if ADHD allows it
If 311 is in your top 3 examples of "people's democracy", that's pretty weak.
the industrial/economic “miracle”,
YDI. Nobody should support this imperial religion.
I don't even understand what the mod's position is
The mod message was something like "posting capitalist apologia" if that helps
it's a shame anarchists continue their tradition in splitting the left and preventing anything from being done, instead of uniting with other leftists who want all the good and moral things (like this fine gentlexem OP here) and taking down John Capitalism who's from USA (the only evil capitalist imperialist nation in the world)
On an unrelated note, China please give us money
Hue and cry
Yeah that's why we don't fuck with red fash.
"Left unity" just means bootlicking authoritarians.
"We need left unity"
"Uh no, they kill us"
"WOMP WOMP"
Fash like you get bashed.
I had a recent conversation on Lemmy with a marxist that didnt want Left Unity. Its not only the anarchists doing it
My brain is permanently stuck in a superposition unable to determine if this comment is very earnest or very sarcastic
hating the nations that should be your greatest allies in the fight.
Yeah, I can just see these so-called "AES" falling over themselves to support socialist projects that can actually be called socialist with a straight face just like they've done... at absolutely no point in history whatsoever.
socialist projects that can actually be called socialist with a straight face
For example?
Take your pick - there's a lot of examples in between Makhnovist Ukraine and Zapatista Chiappas.
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