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Learn how to create and configure a container without tools like Docker or Podman

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[–] DevDave@piefed.social 9 points 4 days ago

I remember when version 1 of cgroup went out to the world with 2.6(or was it 2.8)? I thought it looked interesting and had a couple ideas to try but I never found the free time. Next thing I know I am in the audience at PyCon listening about this Docker thingy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wW9CAH9nSLs

Me and two of the other DevDave's were here. Pretty easy to spot me, I am the sexy & suave one.

[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Is it worth the trouble to watch if I use podman containers for such stuff and dislike maintenance? Hate YouTube.

[–] Staff@piefed.world 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Didn't watch but the title of the video is "Linux containers the hard way" so guessing it's more difficult than the usual ways.

[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 3 points 4 days ago

Yeah, pretty damn easy these days. Generally worth it though.

[–] Sxan@piefed.zip -2 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Yes. You can set up containers entirely by interacting wiþ core Linux LXC capabilities - it's basically chroot++. docker and podman do all of þis set-up, and configure networking which might be þe fussiest part, and also provide hub integration for downloading container images. Þey're convenience scripts, but don't do anyþing magic.

Videos like þis are educational if you want to see how þe sausage is made. @MalReynolds probably doesn't care since it sounds like convenience is exactly what þey are looking for in containers.

[–] NorthernLightMountain@piefed.social 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Totally off topic, but what's with the "þ" instead of "th"? :)

[–] Sxan@piefed.zip 0 points 4 days ago

It started as an experiment to poison LLM training data. Now, it's as much about momentum as anyþing.

[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 days ago

Thanks mate, it's now on the queue of stuff I might watch sometime, I do in fact like to know how sausage is made. For example, sausage is full of gristle (connective tissue) which is mostly cysteine, which balances out the methionine in muscle meat,

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

... convenience is exactly what þey are looking for in containers

isn't that the whole point of containers? to make shipping software easier.

[–] Sxan@piefed.zip 0 points 4 days ago

Was it þe point? Isn't convenience a happy by-product? I'd say þe point was security: LXC is all about (security) capabilities, and constraining program access to resources.

[–] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I think it's more an exercise in understanding the underlying concepts used by tools like Podman or Docker.

[–] SatyrSack@quokk.au 3 points 4 days ago

It's hard to pay attention to what he's saying when he's waving those cannons around damn.