it's often crazy to put on a foreign film and see vibrant colors. it's almost like a religious experience. who knew green looked like green? american color graders are just like 'lets turn the brightness down to barely being able to see anything on the screen.'
I think they do that to cover for shitty CGI. Can't tell its shit if you can't see it.
Yet the director most famous for his muted colors, Christopher Nolan (who is red green colorblind and intentionally avoids color), is also famous for refusing to use CGI when practical effects are available.
I don't think one dude is a good example when talking about trends. Nolan is an outlier in more ways than one.
Colours Nolan who lives in an editing suite and eats 1 million colours a day, is an outlier and should not have been counted.
If anything other directors are copying him without understanding why it works in his films and not in every film.
Does it work though? For being the first film shot totally in Imax, The Odyssey was kind of dull to look at.
“Hero” was so mindblowing when it came out!
Ironically, that movie purposefully used color themes to convey the mood of each scene.
I'd settle for muted colors if things were lit at all at this point. So many movies feel like they filmed in an abandoned warehouse at midnight with all the lights turned off.
A movie video essayist I watch did a good video I share with non cinema folks about the lack of colors in marvel movies.
You might enjoy it: Why do Marvel movies look kind of ugly?
It's mad to see a ten year old Patrick Willems essay, then hear him say at the end that it's a departure for his channel. I've only ever known him for his essays.
Yeah but back then it really was unusual for him. It was all "what if x was done by y" and such. He's come a long way since then.
New Star Trek manages to look dark even with tons of lights for the lensflares. Because nothing says „space“ and „modern“ like working in a dim, depressing space while simultaneously getting blinded by half a dozen lights strategically placed at eye height.
Oh don't get me started on lensflares or motion blur. So many people think we need to keep them in order to know we're watching a movie because "that's how it's always been". I don't get why limited technology of the past should be the standard. Should we go back to black and white only again? Why do we have sound? Never used to. You had an organist to tell you you're in a movie.
I always think about old school star wars for space. There is not a single doubt in my mind they're in space during those fighter battles, but I can see everything without getting blinded or having to strain.
Motion blur is necessary for movies. They don't run at 60fps, they run at 24fps. They would feel stuttery if they didn't have motion blur. That's why even computer animated movies have fake motion blur added to them.
Except they could run at 60+ fps. I watched The Hobbit in High Frame Rate and it was glorious. It didn't take off because too many people complained of it not looking like a movie. The exact same complaints they had when movies switched to HD. Only this time the complaints sunk it for the most part instead of studios taking the time to adjust to new production methods. We get like one HFR movie a year now.
Wasn't the problem that you got more information in the same time so that the footage had to be sped up and that looked silly ?
It's more because there was no blur covering everything so you definitely saw some of the tricks they used. Saw it was just costumes and stuff.
It wasn't major or like in your face in my opinion but it was there, and people couldn't accept a transition time as studios figured out how to make stuff look good at the higher frame rate. Better or different makeup or add more oomph to costumes or whatever.
If you go and look at old forum comments about movies like, I want to say The Prestige (2006), some of the first ones to hit Blu-ray, they said similar stuff. The higher pixel counts revealed when rocks were fake and sets and stuff.
The issue is the fake CGI motion blur. It’s overdone. It’s not at all natural the way real motion blur on a film camera is.
I blame the digital workflows where everything is shot in RAW at high shutter speed and then digitally motion blurred and colour graded all to crap. Watch old movies that were shot on film and they look a million times better than the brown haze we got with Dune.
Oh don’t get me started on lensflares or motion blur. So many people think we need to keep them in order to know we’re watching a movie because “that’s how it’s always been”.
Motion blur only started cropping up in action movies in the 90s to hide bad choreography and lens flare is just something a few directors started doing in the 2000s. Tons of well lit and colorful movies have existed since movies started to be filmed in color and there are plenty without either of those two things.
Anyone who thinks that is 'how it has always been' is extrapolating it from a few directors and their blockbuster movies.
Watch Gone With the Wind and suffer the consequences of being disappointed by the lighting in almost every modern movie.
Or a lot of the Hitchcock movies. They portray so much with how they play with light.
The new Spider-Man was mostly CG-ed Glasgow but they actually went to some lengths to light it properly. It’s literally night and day compared to the last 10 years.
Oh yeah, the new Spider-Man was beautiful. That's definitely a good modern example showing you can be moody and depressed without just being black darkness
Cool. Patrick is the reason I finally subscribed to Nebula for his Star Wars Christmas Special, and I've stuck around ever since.
So you'd say you drank the Christmas milk? One of us, one of us!
I thought the main point of OLED was blacker blacks. But, I don't have one.
And, yes, the trend of applying an overall color and contrast wash to different scenes in a movie, and entire movies, has gone too far.
Yes, the blacks are blacker, but the colors are more vibrant in contrast. I love it for video games. Animations in general are better and so are sports. They hide the good settings when you get the tv though. *The reds have more variety, they're not only purple based.
Red and Green is danger
Lol Christmas is dangerous
Put them all together and you get the Green Lantern franchise. (The comics more than any on-screen media.)
It's even more stupid when you consider the availability of HDR and Dolby Vision.
Suddenly you have access to high quality color mapping features thst formerly relied on you using expensive film to ensure you get all the colors you want, both pre and post processing.
But then you just take a dump all over it with an awful color grade that makes using HDR almost pointless.
I went with TCL MiniLED which has awesome contrast and deep blacks due to their newer backlight tech so it's essentially a poor man's OLED, and the films that actually used HDR/DV to their advantage look absolutely stunning. MI7's opening with the submarine looks awesome with the contrast of the characters and their deep red and green displays illuminating the scene.
I haven't heard the TCL miniLED. I'll look into it. I saved up for OLED and then Best Buy had an awesome sale that they didn't want to honor when I came to pick it up. I see now that Costco has the same price for bigger tvs. I'm guessing it's because they have competition now? This was 4 years ago or something too that best buy tried to screw me. They honored it in the end, but there was a lot of hulabaloo going on with management.
I forgot exactly how it works but they essentially set the same price at every retailer, so a price drop is either a one off sale or everyone else also price dropped, hence why Best Buy is supposed to offer a price match.
For TCL, it was the QM8k, which has the new WHVA panel and a higher LED backlight density which makes it look like an OLED.
Only worth it if you can get it at a good price though (1-1.5k), otherwise you might find something better in the same price range at 2k and higher.
I got a TCL QM7 55" 2 years ago and love it. TCL was very reasonably priced and it had good reviews. The HDR is great.
There's a whole separate subcategory of this complaint titled, "Color Grading Fucking Up Re-Releases."
I think one of the LoTR editions is grossly color-graded, and streaming Buffy The Vampire Slayer will give you color grading in conflict with the narrative, but you'll likely be too distracted by the bizarre framing to notice.
Ah, I love how incredibly stupid and careless the Buffy "remaster" was made. Let me talk about that in two pictures:
Hell, why not show parts of the set, including the crew. Color grading was completely skipped for some scenes, which derails the whole narrative, as they're now seemingly taking place during day, for example. It's amazing.
It is something to behold... briefly, before popping in the DVD.
Slight digression: "The demon that eats colors" would be an interesting addition to Magic: The Gathering, if it doesn't exist already in some form
Pazuzu rose to the position of chief post-editing demon around 2015 when Takihi, "the demon who eats beautiful actresses' clothing" retired/was cancelled under mysterious circumstances. His most ardent worshippers refer to this event as "Gamergate"
I saw Rebel One in theaters. The inky blacks of space were turned into a staticky grey, which I didn't notice until the end of the movie when they got back to the beautiful anthracite that is the entire reason I want to see things happen in outer space.
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