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AI = Fascism (lemmy.nz)
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[-] Xerxos@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 day ago

No, killing Art and turning your brain into sludge is just the by-product. The intention of the techno fascists is to create a permanent underclass, forced to serve the rich and live in poverty. You know, slavery for everyone except the 1%.

Just imagine a future where police and military are just drones controlled by an AI. Jobs are few and therefore badly paid. And on top of it the rich in their luxury bunkers watching us fight for the scraps and dying from climate change and malnutrition.

[-] Naive@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Kinda like Brave New World

[-] Amir@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

Brave New World had genetically engineered humans for each wealth class, and made sure every class was happy.

Our real-world dystopia seems to be going towards 99% of the world living in permanent misery.

[-] Naive@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I think they will do some genetic engineering with all of us later on so that we don't feel sad and miserable and continue serving "the economy".

[-] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago

If only there was an easier way to help make people happy.....

[-] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

The rich like Thiel and Musk don’t actually want to keep the rest of us as slaves, they want us to die so they can enjoy the Earth as a depopulated garden of Eden tended by their robots.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

On top of that, the elites have a problem: they hate educated people because they don't fall for the lies, but they need their "smartness". AI is their attempt to separate the knowledge and skills from the people.

[-] Sunflier@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Ai is the Epstein class's attempt to access the skills of the proletariat while denying the proletariat's ability to access wealth.

[-] Snapz@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's a machine that makes your selfish, ignorant visions, the ones you wish were true, feel tangible - and that's enough for a broken person to believe. "I wish mr. trump had big sweaty muscles, oh boy..."

People who love AI also cheat at solitaire.

[-] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

AI "works of art"... are not about genuine personal expression or interpretation channeled through art and literature by hand and DIY, but rather the production of art and literature entirely using LLMs just purely for personal convenience and gain, in either clout or money or both.

That you have these supposed cheap "creatives" choosing NOT to DIY and set asides time to learn how to master a new art form, and instead grab an LLM box and type anything they want and the machines bring the finished product to their table... which so smacks of instant gratification.

Fascism is not just all of its symptoms Umberto Eco talked about, but also plundering art and literature to kill off genuine expression and skill, in favor of mass-produced soulless capricious slop.

[-] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 109 points 2 days ago

Its more than that, AI art seems like crack for right-wingers. Something about a lifetime of "the curtains are fucking blue" and "my ignorance is just as valid as your knowledge" applied to media makes art no more than aesthetically pleasing shapes and colors for these people, and AI can do surface level aethetics really well.

I’ve read somewhere that right winger (and by extension billionaires) could see themselves become one of the millionaires class, however they cannot imagine being one day someone in the intelligencia/artists class.

At the time it was for explaining why Bezos bought on week worth of every hotel rooms in Venice and why he was pouring money into the Met Gala.

I think it fit for AI art

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[-] wewbull@feddit.uk 70 points 2 days ago

They're burning books so that "truth" can be only obtained from a machine they control.

Nothing fascist about that.

[-] shirro@aussie.zone 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

A lot of tech bros who were deeply into crypto currency scams before they latched onto AI. There was a fair bit of anti-government feeling to that lot. Naturally scammers and criminals fear regulation. Now they arguably control the government it is more about retaining their influence. It can be difficult to separate self interest and politics with the rich. I think amongst average people distrust of AI is fairly split across political divides but that might change with funded, targeted campaigns.

[-] khaleer@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago

Lefties and "anarchists" defending it is funniest shit I can observe in the wild

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

"But intellectual property bad and muh pragmatism!"

Firstly: 🤣🤣🤣

Secondly: While Intellectual property isn't necessarily a good thing, its the best thing we can wield against the AI overlords. They don't want to democratize art, they want to destroy it. That's what actual pragmatism is. Also anti-IP movements hurt not big corporations, but small independent creators and developers. That disabled artist friend of yours that is now "mean" at you "for no good reason" is getting called a millionaire no matter how much they have to beg for rent money at the end of the month, while parents are continuing to look for Disney and Harry Potter slop instead of letting their kids experience art made by smaller creators. Similarly Microsoft can sustain you pirating Windows if that means Windows will remain a de-facto standard, but open source projects are also being attacked sometimes for "clinging onto evil copyright laws" or for "e-begging".

Thirdly: Speaking of pragmatic use of AI: Why don't you use some Chinese models to hack the fash into oblivion? Why is it always some crappy AI generated agitprop, or AI slop articles talking about how AI could be used for fully automated luxury gay space communism? Taking down communication channels used by them would be a lot more pragmatic, than slowly hurting your fellow comrades just to get some clout from other comrades of yours in the name of "pragmatism"!

Stop cooking your brain, just because techbros managed to control the narrative about anti-AI extremism. I personally know people, who would happily sacrifice a portion of the population if it means the genie will be put back quicker into the bottle, that's what real anti-AI extremism is. Extremism isn't being mean to an artist on social media, because they drew hands weirdly, or they used that "glowy"-style rendering. This is just "the real racists are anti-racists" tactic yet again, expect this time you fell for it.

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[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 48 points 2 days ago

They don’t wanna kill art. They want to place themselves between you and everything. While it’s free now, when they get done destroying all the books and shutting down all the independent websites, you’ll pay.

Just like the streaming services shut down physical copies of games, music stores and video rentals.

You’ll pay.

[-] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 12 points 1 day ago

They're even playing pro data center propaganda ads lying about them bringing down utility prices. It's insane.

[-] bstix@feddit.dk 14 points 1 day ago

I don't think there's any actual right wing anymore. At least not in terms of values or opinions or politics. They're not conservatives or anything of that kind.

It has been completely devoured by induced populism run by facists. It's not really populism, because it's not popular as such and it's not against the elite. It's induced - by the billionaire elite.

These facists need the data centers and AI to push their opinions to gullible voters. Just like Hitler used massive rallies to take advantage of group pressure to make people think they shared his views, the fascist are using the algorithms of social media to make gullible people believe that they have the presented opinion on something that they don't actually give a shit about.

So that's why AI is not really a right wing thing, but still presented as being on that side. If we could find a country in the world where the left wing were the gullible idiots, I'm certain the facists would do the exact same thing there on that side. The facists don't give a shit about politics, because they really do want break democracy. All they need is stupid people, which AI is delivering, and they'll sell it through any political ideology present to them.

Trump is doing just that for them. I wonder if he's even aware of himself being used for this. Obviously he's a massive idiot and a selfish asshole, but sometimes he'll talk about fixing things and doing good stuff, and maybe he even believes he's doing that. However, it always turns out that corruption beats whatever intention he had. It always turns to shit the next day. His staff spends every second day explaining why Trump is an asshole and every second day explaining why Trump wasn't enough of an asshole. It doesn't matter what he says or wants. His only role was to scoop up the gullible idiots.

[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago

That, and the data centers will be used for mass surveillance — processing the data from all their millions and millions of cameras to identify and track you wherever you go. Up until now it's required so much effort for them to physically track down all of their political enemies but that's not going to be the case for very long.

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[-] CyLith@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

I'm not sure pro-AI is a right wing stance. I live in a deeply red rural county, and just today, at the board of supervisors meeting, they voted on an immediate moratorium on new data center construction (note: we currently have none). The past weeks have seen a litany of residents speak out against data centers, most of whom I would assume are MAGA or MAGA-adjacent.

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

There are a lot of people, who want their AI slop, but without the AI data centers. Some even argues the current infrastructure is more than enough for it.

[-] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 4 points 1 day ago

NIMBY.

"We already shipped our nuclear and e-waste to non-Western countries, can't we do the same with data centers?"

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[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah, pretty much. I'm enjoying having it do some stuff for me. The people making it are absolute lunatics.

I haven't really found a use for AI that is actually beneficial to me. The only time I run across it is via forced search engine automation, and half the time when you read the actual sources generated for it they do not match, or are not being correctly interpreted by the AI.

From what I've seen it seems to be mainly useful for people working in tech.

[-] Gaslov@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

What industry do you work in? I've found it extremely helpful for research and finding solutions to engineering related problems.

I work in orthotics and prosthetics, basically I evaluate patients, build, and then fit people custom braces and fake limbs.

It's a really small field and it is really hands on. It's hard enough for students to find actual books on the subject, let alone something that has enough available information for an AI to scrape from. I think the last time I checked my field was one of the lowest professions at risk to be affected by automation in the future.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

Yeah, no one paying for a blue checkmark has any leg to stand on.

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 day ago

Ecologically, it's binary: bad

Economically, it's binary: bad

In actual practice, in the broad strokes, it's not binary, but leans hard toward bad.

There are specific things, it's good at, that are very low token/power

If my 2070 could handle any models with tool use, I could do a lot of it at home.

While I'm doing DevOps work, I keep a window open of what i'm doing, what choices i'm making, i gave it a RO harness to access the stuff i'm working on so it can check me for errors and enumerate security concerns.

When i'm done architecting something, I have it fully document what, where, how, why and add in any security concerns. I then have that stuffed in a repo for my sucessor and any devs that need to understand what I did.

it 95% going to fuck over humanity and pay the oligarchs. The remaining 5% can't justify it's existence, but while it's there, i'm going to use it. They're not paying me more, it can at least remove shit work from my plate while it's available.

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