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How can you order a farmer to destroy their trees? I hope he fights in a higher court. Wish I'd heard about the nectarine giveaway. I'd have gone to pick some.

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[-] nanometer1625@thelemmy.club 15 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

a judge had ruled that his trees had to be destroyed before the trial even began.

The article doesn't explain the judge's reasoning for this ruling, and I am struggling to understand why the judge would do this. The whole court case is due to Giumarra Brothers Fruit Company being unhappy that they were not receiving 100% of the nectarines from the trees that they licensed to the farmer. So how does destroying the trees help anyone?

[-] qarbone@lemmy.world 8 points 7 hours ago

It does seem like it's just a punishment for being generous.

[-] OpenPassageways@programming.dev 37 points 13 hours ago

A big part of the problem here is this licensed fruit.

It seems like the guy agreed to grow this fruit that needed to be exclusively licensed or you wouldn't be allowed to grow it.

He also agreed that the company he licensed the fruit from had exclusive rights to buy and market the fruit.

The company with exclusive rights apparently wasn't paying for all the fruit that was grown. Unclear why.

The jury ruled that the farmer broke the contract, but there's so much fucked up about the contract to begin with.

If the company didn't want the fruit, the farmer should be able to sell it or give it away. They decided NOT to exercise their exclusive rights.

And now the trees will be destroyed because they are unlicensed... What a dumb system.

[-] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

He sublicensed the right to sell the fruit back in 2017 but, then signed a marketing agreement with the Fruit company said only they can market and sell it.

His agreements seem to contradict each other.

Lots of people don’t read what they sign. But it’s also shitty of the company to trick him like that.

Read everything you sign. If you don’t understand, get a lawyer to read it.

[-] jnod4@lemmy.ca 25 points 13 hours ago

How do you licence a fucking fruit ? How can you copyright food? Fuck this mf earth

[-] Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

For the record it's a patent, not copyright.

[-] W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

Because of monopolies and corporations, farmers are being pushed out, the only way for some farmers to afford to do it is to use licensing agreements like his.

They license the rights and get a payment up front or a monthly payment to help them with huge initial costs.

[-] CanIFishHere@lemmy.ca -2 points 12 hours ago

If the company spends considerable amounts of cash developing a genetically modified fruit that is superior in some way, they have the rights to that fruit.

[-] Bane_Killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 hours ago

No, what they have is a morally bereft contract condition.

[-] jnod4@lemmy.ca 14 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Whatever my man keep eating those copyrighted fruits just remember then they own what you shit as well

[-] Neverbeaten@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

We should remember to save it and ship it to their HQ.

[-] settxy@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

Uh... pretty much the entire agriculture industry works this way... Monsanto forces farmers to sign licenses that they won't use the seeds produced by their crops to grow more crops.

[-] mesamunefire@piefed.social 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

**It does and it doesn't. **

I worked in the industry for many years. Theres more spit and handshake agreements than people are aware of. Definitely in the Central Valley. Its a whole industry full of legal loopholes. Licensing crops can be as easy as a written signature with one page to whole multi-company rights etc..etc...

Also growers/transportation/storage/etc... are sometimes all the same multi-conglomerate and with the same owner. But have a different business license/business. That way, if one gets sued only one goes down. Also one can have a huge tax related issue and have "losses". Lots of creative work there.

So yeah its not black and white as most people think. Significant amounts of your food is both licensed with a huge agreement...and others are "unlicensed" but licensed as a spit/handshake. Mellons are a perfect example.

Dont get me started on the commodities markets..and onions.

[-] Bluedragon012@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago

So, seems like we gonna have to guard our food with violence.

[-] Strider@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

Trickle down economy?

[-] Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world -1 points 11 hours ago

This is just a story of two greedy profit chasing parties fighting with each other. Fuck em both.

[-] anarchy79@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You have an orchard unapproved by the komisariat, Farmer. You disrupt the logistical system you see. Perhaps you would like to name few names to make punishment more less harsher, yes?

Edit: bah there is a fair explanation for all of this below. Or above, depending on your point of view.

[-] Janx@piefed.social 85 points 1 day ago

The works of the roots of the vines, of the trees, must be destroyed to keep up the price, and this is the saddest, bitterest thing of all. Carloads of oranges dumped on the ground. The people came for miles to take the fruit, but this could not be. How would they buy oranges at twenty cents a dozen if they could drive out and pick them up? And men with hoses squirt kerosene on the oranges, and they are angry at the crime, angry at the people who have come to take the fruit. A million people hungry, needing the fruit- and kerosene sprayed over the golden mountains. And the smell of rot fills the country. Burn coffee for fuel in the ships. Burn corn to keep warm, it makes a hot fire. Dump potatoes in the rivers and place guards along the banks to keep the hungry people from fishing them out. Slaughter the pigs and bury them, and let the putrescence drip down into the earth.

There is a crime here that goes beyond denunciation. There is a sorrow here that weeping cannot symbolize. There is a failure here that topples all our success. The fertile earth, the straight tree rows, the sturdy trunks, and the ripe fruit. And children dying of pellagra must die because a profit cannot be taken from an orange. And coroners must fill in the certificate- died of malnutrition- because the food must rot, must be forced to rot. The people come with nets to fish for potatoes in the river, and the guards hold them back; they come in rattling cars to get the dumped oranges, but the kerosene is sprayed. And they stand still and watch the potatoes float by, listen to the screaming pigs being killed in a ditch and covered with quick-lime, watch the mountains of oranges slop down to a putrefying ooze; and in the eyes of the people there is the failure; and in the eyes of the hungry there is a growing wrath. In the souls of the people the grapes of wrath are filling and growing heavy, growing heavy for the vintage.

--John Steinbeck, The Grapes of Wrath

[-] anarchy79@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago
[-] nullspace@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Mora says that around half of the nectarines provided to Giumarra by him in 2020 were thrown away. That, he alleged, cut into his profits.

I don't think this is an open and shut case. There's got to be some bullshit in the contract about minimum quality thresholds and mandatory order volumes.

[-] TBi@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

Although most likely the minimum is “fuck you, you should have read the contract properly”

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