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[-] Anivia@feddit.org 22 points 6 days ago

I mean, this is inaccurate, at least for Germany. Although health insurance is technically mandatory in Germany, there are over 50k citizens that are uninsured, not 0

[-] nexguy@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

Interesting. How are they uninsured? If they go to get care are they turned away or have to pay more?

[-] Anivia@feddit.org 7 points 6 days ago

https://www.aerzteblatt.de/archiv/menschen-ohne-krankenversicherung-ein-oft-uebersehenes-problem-0f03a705-055c-4855-9a36-d06040aef11f

It happens if people don't pay their health insurance for more than 3 months in a row, and yes, they will get turned away by doctors unless they are willing to pay their entire treatment cost out of pocket.

[-] ItsLucky@pawb.social 2 points 6 days ago

As far as I understand it nost of these people are jobless, not on welfare and can't pay the amount of money the insurence wants them to pay. Oh and also above 25 years old or without parenta as otherwise you could get insurance over them.

[-] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago

We subsidize Israel’s government through military. The money they save helps pay for them to have socialized healthcare.

That needs to be the message.

[-] mirshafie@europe.pub 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

That should not be the message. Socialized health care is cheaper by far than the premium-on-health model that you're using in the United States.

It's the same argument that Republicans have been using to extract concessions from Canada and Europe: "look at these freeloaders, they won't pay their fair share for defense (read: they don't buy enough American weapons) and they use the money for socialized health care, we ought to teach them a lesson."

The truth is that defense or foreign aid isn't in the same league as health care. You're giving Israel about 7 billion a year, and don't get me wrong - that's a lot and you should stop it. But you're spending 5.3 trillion on health care. Meanwhile, the record-setting defense budget for 2026 is 718 billion - and interestingly the vast majority of that budget is actually socialized health care! It's 441 billion going to the Department of Veterans Affairs.

With socialized health care, you could pay a lot less. And I hope you'd use the money for literally anything other than war.

[-] IronBird@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

they get alot more from us than just military aid

loads and loads of tax breaks/special exceptions to make doing business with them more lucrative than anywhere else.

special exceptions that make it incredibly easy for them to tap into the wild west that is US financial markets etc.

[-] bold_atlas@lemmy.world -2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Even their culture is an inferior knock-off of ours.

[-] ddplf@szmer.info 2 points 6 days ago

Alright buddy, you better watch yourself now because you're flying waaayy too close to the brown sun.

[-] skidicarus@sh.itjust.works -1 points 6 days ago

Bro seeing Israel when they're not even in the post lol

[-] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

Post was about a lot of countries. I singled out Israel because we pay for a lot of their shit while telling ourselves we can’t afford the same shit.

Why is that a problem for you?

[-] skidicarus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago

We subsidize their military but can't pay for our own? Interesting. But also you just come off as obsessive and, well, you know.

[-] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

I said one thing and I’m “obsessive”?

That’s fucking stupid.

[-] skidicarus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago

As a matter of fact, yes.

[-] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 days ago

I live in the U.S. and I have "health insurance" from my employer (over 200k employees worldwide and billions in profit). My contribution to my health insurance premiums is around $4500 per year (I think). The last four years I have hit my deductible for at least one family member and out of pocket maximum. I am fortunate that I have been able to afford the roughly $20k per year that I have been spending on health care, but it has wrecked my ability to save or do anything else.

So I guess my point is that I believe that 27M uninsured dramatically understates the scale of the US healthcare crisis. I feel like the political elite are so far out of touch that they hear a story like mine and think "$20k? That's like a nice bottle of wine, what's the problem?" It's been devastating to my finances and by virtually any definition, I am in the working rich. Most people absolutely could not afford $20k per year. I am hoping next year will be better, but devastating medical bills are inevitable for most of us, and our socialized medicine is administered through the bankruptcy courts.

For profit insurance is pure exploitation.

[-] MithranArkanere@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

I am amazed it's only 27 million. If they could, they would charge all 340 million Americans and all immigrants yet to nationalize, and give no service at all. Which is their obvious aim. Charge for being alive.

[-] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

Republicans for the most part don't care what anyone else thinks of them. They are full of the certain knowledge that they are the center of the universe and nothing outside that rotting circle matters.

[-] sanzky@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

being honest a lot of those countries lack universal healthcare. And by universal I mean everyone, including migrants without papers.

[-] farmgineer@nord.pub 3 points 6 days ago

Japan is not technically correct. One is required to have healthcare coverage, but some people skirt the law and don't. We also pay at point of service, pay for prescriptions, etc. This is on top of paying for insurance (though your company may offer insurance that it pays some/all of). There are tax procedures once medical out-of-pocket reaches 100k JPY in a year and a way to reduce/eliminate further cost.

[-] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago

I know this is a tough pill for americans to swallow. But lots of countries does not allow trans-athletes to compete in the women's class.

The international organisation for track and field, and also the IOK have already said that transathletes are not allowed to compete with women (for now).

Though I absolutely agree that US politicians are experts at exaggerating and trying to blow the smallest issue out of proportion for headlines.

And it's sad the American people are too uneducated to see through the charade.

I would laugh at the US, if it wasnt for the fact that people's lives are ruined forever on a daily basis.

[-] Tobberone@feddit.nu 2 points 6 days ago

Not laughing. Crying

[-] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 days ago

These aren't any republicans, these are the rich ones with not enough imagination to think of anything but other people's sexual preferences.

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago

I can't imagine laughing at this gross genocidal empire.

More like puking.

[-] unitedwithme@lemmy.today 73 points 1 week ago

Go into debt?! How so?

We only spend $700+/mo ($8,400 annual) for our family of 4, with $4500 deductibles per person and a family max out of pocket of $15,000... Is that not affordable for everyone?

/s in case it wasn't abundantly clear...

[-] supcoop@thelemmy.club 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Who do you have? I pay that much for just myself in FL marketplace (bronze plan, high deductible)

[-] unitedwithme@lemmy.today 1 points 6 days ago

BCBS through my wife's employer. They're about 1800 employees so maybe have better negotiated benefits

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[-] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 50 points 1 week ago

27 million with no coverage, the rest with extremely poor coverage.

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[-] meat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 1 week ago

And how many millions more Americans effectively have no access due to poverty and high copays?

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