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Avoiding US goods and services – from tech to whisky to air travel – has forced many to find a new way of living

This week the US imposed 50% tariffs on US$20bn (£15bn) of Canadian goods, and Mark Carney, the country’s prime minister, has vowed to match them “dollar for dollar” after the collapse of trade talks between the two countries last weekend. Donald Trump retaliated on Thursday by ordering the federal government to rename Lake Ontario to Lake America.

Such actions have added fuel to a widespread boycott of US products and services by Canadians that began early last year in response to the president’s trade war and threats to annex his northern neighbour.

More than 3,500 people from across Canada shared with the Guardian via an online callout how they have made changes to their lives in response to the US administration’s political and economic stance. Many expressed deep anger and sadness, but remained resolute that this was now a new way of living.

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[-] wirebeads@lemmy.ca 117 points 6 days ago

It’s more than that for me. Many products I bring into Canada from Europe come into the country via a warehouse or subsidiary in the US before landing in Canada.

I’ve stopped importing their products even though they’re not American.

I want to source their products direct or work with them to build out distribution here in Canada.

We need to change the worldview that America is the centre piece. Their fascists and what we’re seeing is a symptom of what America really is. Boycott them.

[-] TeaWithDani@lemmy.world 23 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Yeah, I'm annoyed at a lot of transformed food products saying "made in Canada from imported produce". Basically American diarrhea spreaders. Ain't buying food that will kill us.

I've successfully cut the use of nearly every American product or service since last year. Genuinely worth it and enriches your life. You just realize how enshitified everything is.

I don't think the American public has understood how these are permanent lifestyle changes. Any trade agreement, getting alcohol back on the shelves, will make these people change that. Tourists are gone. People will not cross the border with the risk of being sent to concentration camps in chains over minor bullshit.

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[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago

I find it very weird that trade between Canada and Europe is going through USA.
Isn't it possible to have more efficient shipping route to Canada than USA?

[-] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 41 points 6 days ago

It's really not weird at all. It's the same in EU. If I order something from another continent. Chances are pretty high it's going to go through Germany before making its way up here to Sweden.

Canada is 40 million to the US 350. So it makes more sense to have things go through the country where your biggest market is, and have it distributed out from there.

Ofc I'm just speaking very broadly. There's a difference if you import directly yourself, or if they're going through a Canadian vendor

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[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It depends on how exactly they're doing it.

If the shipments are treated as "bonded shipments" in the US (meaning that they're in the US only in transit to a final destination outside the US - which in this case is Canada), then they're not considered as imported into the US and are instead treated as as imported directly into Canada, even though they travel to the US on their way to Canada. In this case it can make sense to import large consignments to, for example, a single port in the US by ship as one or more full shipping container loads and un-bundle it there into two parts, one that's officially imported into the US and another which is a bonded shipment which travels by road to Canada and which is officially imported into Canada (so, for example, US-Canada tariffs have no bearing in that)

On the other hand, officially importing something into the US to then afterwards officially export from the US and importing into Canada wouldn't really make sense IMHO because it would possibly pay Duty on entering the US and then again on entering Canada. I mean, maybe they did it like this because NAFTA meant there was no Duty from the US to Canada for such products, but as things stand now it's a risky setup if not already a problem.

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[-] VelvetPinkOtter123@lemmy.world 43 points 5 days ago

"I think you need to be in Canada to understand how deep the animosity to the US is"

I too have deep animosity for the US, and I live here

[-] lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago

You need to be in Canada to understand how deep the animosity to the US is.

[-] anarchy79@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago

If there is one thing US citizens and non-US citizens can agree upon, it's that the US can fuck right off.

[-] aloofPenguin@piefed.world 8 points 5 days ago
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[-] f371ks@lemmy.world 57 points 6 days ago

European here. Avoiding American stuff wherever possible since a while.

Sneakers, clothing, Linux rather than Windows, tech, ketchup and so forth.

Not sure what the impact will be, if any, but hopefully it will help a bit somehow.

[-] Smoogs@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

For anyone interested about companies that have made massive strides since the tariffs:

alt for google : proton (switzerland)

alt browser: vivaldi (norway/germany)

alt search engine : qwant (france) ecosia (germany)

alt for note taking : joplin(england)

alt for win : lunix. (global) -free

alt for mfp: kazio (new zealand)

alt for fitbit : polar (finland)

alt for phones : fairphone (netherlands /china)

alt for github : codeberg (germany)

alt for amazon : shop app (shopify canada)

alt for music : deezer (france)

for books : kobo (canada)

alt for ms office : libreoffice (germany) free

alt card wallet : catima

alt for cloud: nord(lithuania)

alt for streaming : make a jellyfin server - free (throw it on ubuntu (england) start hosting your own stuff local). i suppose also plex but that is a californian company.

alt to paypal : klarna (europe) - that said we still do need more ecommerce to be supportive of alternatives for this and card wallets other than google pay. this is really lagging behind.

[-] k0e3@lemmy.ca 18 points 5 days ago

Man, fuck Shopify. Tobin is a shitsmear of a human.

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[-] TeaWithDani@lemmy.world 31 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

For me a major concern was American surveillance and law enforcement backdoors. A country with no concern for international law or human rights should not have that kind of supranational power. I'd feel safer with Chinese electronics in all honesty.

Here's some alternatives I've been using:

-Routers: Mikrotik, Latvian company, mostly made in Eastern Europe

-Cloud Storage: Tresorit, owned by Swiss Post

-VPS: Ovhcloud, French company with its North American Datacenter in Canada

-Linux: Anything but Fedora which is owned by IBM. Using it contributes to their RnD for their Redhat corporate services and distros.

-DNS: Quad9. Switzerland based non profit. Don't give Cloudflare your precious traffic data.

-Dropped every single US owned social media and subscription service.

Still working on migrating my email and search off Microsoft and Google. Going to drop Android and Steam at the first viable opportunity.

Credit Cards and Youtube are literally the only two that are unviable to switch from... for now.

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[-] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago

I hope the boycott doesn't stop even after if ever the regime changes. US will stay the same, what happened today can happen tomorrow.

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[-] kurmudgeon@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago

As an American, I'm right there with you Canada. I've been giving your country all my tourism money for the past 2 years since the orange dipshit became president again. You deserve it more than this shitty country does.

[-] rottenmummy@lemmy.ml 20 points 6 days ago

I am hoping to hear from a real Canadian if this a common thing among Canadians or is it just a handful of people?

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

Grocery stores have so much unsold US food they don't bother to put it on shelves.

[-] shutz@lemmy.ca 52 points 6 days ago

Canadian here. Everyone I know is trying to avoid American products when we can. My parents switched from orange juice to apple juice for breakfast. People buy produce from Mexico to avoid American, enough that supermarkets try harder at sourcing outside the US wherever possible.

[-] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 37 points 6 days ago

Adding my Canadian voice to the pile: it's very real and common. It's common enough that our biggest grocery chain has updated their labelling to be much clearer on the source of products

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 16 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The grocery stores near me have big signs with Canadian flags on, marking some shelves as all Canadian. They wouldn't bother if they didn't think it would help sales.

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[-] Ulvain@sh.itjust.works 13 points 6 days ago

Québécois who did his groceries earlier today, here - 100% agree. Without going back to check I can tell you I intentionally didn't buy grapes ("product of the United States") but i did buy iceberg lettuce (from Quebec, incidentally for 1$) and red bell peppers (product of Canada). I bought onions (from Canada) but no berries (they were all from the US). Bought some "CARBS" sourdough crackers, too, Companys right here in Quebec!!

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[-] Ryudos@lemmy.world 30 points 6 days ago

Pretty much everyone I know avoids any American products at the grocery store, and I know a few people that have switched off products they like to Canadian alternatives (like ketchup, cheese, etc). My family bought Heinz our whole lives and now we've swapped to French's, which we've found we like better so we won't be switching back anyways. I think one of the biggest things is losing a lot of long time customers and brand loyalty.

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[-] MushuChupacabra@piefed.world 25 points 6 days ago

Leaving american products and produce on the shelf is very much a thing.

Abandoning American alcohol and never looking back is a thing.

Actively replacing American products with local, European or Asian trade partners is a thing.

I think that a lot of this will be ongoing, even after the Trump regime falls.

[-] Coyote@piefed.ca 21 points 6 days ago

Another Canadian here and I'll tell ya, buying American ain't what it used to be. It's not just a boycott, it's straight up reputational ruination.

[-] breakfastmtn@lemmy.ca 21 points 6 days ago

There's gotta be some people who don't give a shit but I haven't really met any. I don't know anyone who's taken a trip to the US during this admin and many who've cancelled trips. Even my elderly mom is using apps to avoid American products. It's definitely not just the typical folks you'd expect to be calling for boycotts.

[-] Ulvain@sh.itjust.works 18 points 6 days ago

Canadian from Quebec here - everyone in my family and friends and every co-workers i have is trying to avoid Americans products, vacations, cars, etc as much as possible, every day.

It's not even a spite thing, not anymore at least - it's just a new habit we're collectively developing.

Tod Maffin has been an amazing and hilarious voice for months through all this...

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[-] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 18 points 6 days ago

Canadian in Ontario, only if there is no alternative will I buy American.

[-] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 12 points 6 days ago

and only if I actually need whatever it is

otherwise I'll just do without

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[-] k0e3@lemmy.ca 15 points 6 days ago

I don't think the USA would be bitching and moaning about Canadian tourists no longer visiting their shithole or Canadians not buying their alcohol if it were just a handful of people taking part in the boycott.

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[-] clanker_victim_555@lemmy.world 16 points 6 days ago

You should believe it because politicians in the affected states are whining about it.

They're whining to us instead of to the orange shit king. But that's a different problem.

[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It's a common topic of conversation in the grocery store aisles and in the coffee shops.

Nobody is happy about how Trump’s America is trying to fuck over our country.

[-] TeaWithDani@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Dude, the American imported oranges have been going moldy on the grocery store shelves since Biden left office.

People will go hungry before they buy fascist.

[-] Bad_Ideas_In_Bulk@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

It's not just the tariffs and other bullshit.

I can't trust American products to be safe.

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[-] tunetardis@piefed.ca 13 points 6 days ago

It's been an education.

On the positive side, I never realized how many products are actually manufactured in Canada. There's a Canadian option for nearly everything I see at the supermarket. Toothpaste is an odd exception. Some items read "Made in Canada using domestic and imported ingredients". They don't specify beyond that where they were imported from, which is a bit annoying.

One thing that really pisses me off is canned soup. Apparently, Campbells went around at some point and bought up nearly all the independent canneries, replacing them with a few giant ones in the US. Even Habitant, which I had always thought of as a Canadian brand, is under the Campbells umbrella at this point. But Canada (specifically Quebec) is the primary aluminum producer for North America by a good margin, which means a 50% tariff ding for every can produced. This affects American and Canadian consumers alike. Canned soup is supposed to be affordable, dammit!

Well, it turns out there is one cannery left in my area: Sprague. They're a bit of a boutique brand, so not necessarily cheaper, but at least they're not tariff-inflated and they make a good product. Their soups generally don't contain outrageous amounts of sodium like most of Campbells offerings, and all their cans have pull tops which is a nice touch. I'm giving them a lot of business now and hope they can expand to fill the void of Canadian producers.

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[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

MS Windows and MS Office is also "made in USA".

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