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No, Tehran is not winning | CNN Politics (www.cnn.com)

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[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I really hate the premise that this is a "war" when it's actually the continuation of at least a century of imperial aggression against Iran.

edit: Did OP get banned from lemmy.world for this? Typical.

[-] AviAdi@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Naw I got banned from News for a small argument.

Though this is a continuation of aggression, this is Iranians people's only hope for true freedom no?

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

X to doubt, CNN/Brett McGurk.

Like, sure:

Wars are contests of leverage and endurance. And the contest now looks very different from even a few months ago.

But there's no real foundation given for why Iran is more exhausted than America. Yes, more is going through the straight of Hormuz, and Iran's still isn't a global economic power. But, America is mostly out of weapons, and had no public support in the first place.

The language about how Iran "chose" to attack shipping is also pretty gross. It's technically true, but the US chose to start this war, so it's not like it was unexpected, unjustified or arbitrary. There's also a part that's basically "we can do it if we just believe".

This bit is totally right, though:

A better American strategy from the start may have been an economic campaign to support the Iranian people demanding change.

[-] AviAdi@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Great and interesting points. Thanks for the comment!

[-] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago

Delusional

[-] gary_host_laptop@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDhcD0ncrt4

same feeling

[-] zbyte64@awful.systems 15 points 1 week ago

"Oil is flowing" they say while our emergency oil reserves are at an all time low. "They will have a missile logistics problem" they say while our own missiles are practically depleted. "It's about endurance" as our sailors try to kill themselves. It's existential for Iran, they are not going to surrender.

[+] AviAdi@lemmy.world -12 points 1 week ago

American life is still better than Iranian life

American casualties are still lower than Iranian

I do agree with everything you posted though, especially the oil reserves. Do you find it funny that the oil markets freaked out during Biden presidency and the Russian war but today markets are calm and rational as we suck our reserves dry? Shit has to be rigged!

[-] zbyte64@awful.systems 13 points 6 days ago

I find it funny the Americans still think they are on top because of their relative "quality of living" to an impoverished state. May the century of humiliation commence!

[-] Zerush@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

In the US quality of living is only true for a rich minority, same as in the Iran or any other capitalist/religious dictatorship country where the bills for the stupidity of the leaders are paid by the people, never by the elites.

[-] meco03211@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Even if true, that's not necessarily a win for the US. This is the type of act that could result in a 9/11 scale terrorist attack. This will have generational effects. Even if Iran unconditionally surrenders, the US has already lost.

[-] pmk@piefed.ca 2 points 1 week ago

Maybe this is the plan, first get stuck in a war against an old enemy some time before midterm elections, fake a terrorist attack on US soil, Trump suspends elections and sends a nuke because he always wanted to. But first he tells his friends to short the market.