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[-] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 48 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

As a German (and more general, a human with a brain): Are they fucking stupid?

SpoilerOf course not, the truth is that they are corrupt

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[-] instantregret@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

France is a country fully devoted to nuclear Power. Must be paradise, cheap and Clean, right? Ask them how its going 😉 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_France?wprov=sfla1

[-] Photonic@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Well, yes actually

France's nuclear-heavy fleet keeps wholesale costs at €30–€80/MWh. Germany's gas-coupled merit order pushes wholesale to €60–€120/MWh.

<https://euenergy.live/articles/average-electricity-bill-europe>

[-] alleycat@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The actual cost of generating electricity by nuclear power is not published by EDF or the French government but is estimated to be between €59/MWh and €83/MWh

Does France also have a ~~merit order~~ "uniform pricing" system like Germany? Electricity prices are set by the most expensive producer, which is fossil by a large margin. This doesn't reflect the actual cost of generating electricity at all, but favors the cheapest producer in the market.

Edit:

Germany at €0.36/kWh average retail rate (2026 H1), driven by high tax + grid fees layered on top of moderate wholesale prices.

The article you posted doesn't say that it's because of high electricity generation costs, but because of high taxes and grid fees. Don't know if you wanted to make that point or just wanted to "actually" the OP, though.

[-] Photonic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

No… that is on top of the wholesale price that I listed.

It says so in your own quote.

[-] varyingExpertise@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Oh, that's cheap, nice. Does that include liability insurance and running costs for the nuclear waste repository for the next few hundred years?

[-] gewindestift@feddit.org 2 points 1 week ago

next few hundred years??? i have some bad news for you...

[-] Photonic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Probably, since that is the price.

Energy taxes are higher in Germany too.

[-] Kissaki@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago

EDF remains heavily in debt.

[-] Photonic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

That’s not just an EDF problem though. The entire French economy is slumping and France has the largest debt of any EU country.

[-] Photonic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I don’t know why you deleted your other comment, but the answer is: it’s a state owned company, so these are communicating vessels.

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[-] NoFearFrontier@feddit.org 4 points 1 week ago

The funniest thing is germany, opposing nucler power, is importing French nuclear power generated electricity labeled as green energy. The hypocrisy is appalling.

[-] Kissaki@feddit.org 5 points 1 week ago

France is also importing from Germany when they can't cover their own demand.

It's a collaborative network.

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