Right? Same problem in Canada, we bitch and moan and will spend so much energy on so many things but our turnout is dogshit. The last Montréal municipal election had 36%, the last couple Ontario provincial elections had less than half, and the last federal election was only 69.5%. Last time the federal election saw more than 70% was in 1988.

The honest fact of it all is that votes are currently not weighted differently. No matter how fucked things get, if populations said “NO” to these openly corrupt assholes then that would be the end of them. Instead, it feels like nothing will stop idiots from voting for pure evil and nothing will get 30+% of the population to actually pay any attention at all.

No one is telling anybody not to vote. I think most of us here, if not all, are going to vote. And most will probably be voting blue, despite objections of a lot of us having establishment dem candidates.

We just don’t have a lot of confidence in how this is going to turn out. It doesn’t look good at all.

Too right. Lets worry about the rest after we try to save the country from itself.

Yeah this is kind scary. Let’s open up this ballot and see who he voted for so we can put him on our ICE harassment list.

Yes, but have you considered “trans, immigrants, communism socialism, think of the children, support the troops, and ice is one phone call away, what’s your background anyway”?

WHEN ARE YOU FUCKERS

I'm just gonna mention it's historically been a lot easier for people to send others into the fray than go themselves. I think we called those people chickenhawks, in the day, but I don't think it applies here.

Still, it's an important historical point.

You mean like the one my entire city did this year? Unless everyone is on board it doesnt work. And not everyone is. Theres still a strong perxentage of the country rooting for this and a large portion that just doesnt care or thinks it will blow over.

Even though the 1% are fucking over the 99%, its not 99% against the 1% its more like 50% of the most evil and vile people with the vast majority of guns against the other 50%

Listen pal, nearly every American is a slave to their day job(s) - especially given the massive uptick in living expenses over the last year/months.

If I "strike" and refuse to show up for my second shift at Winn-Dixie, all that will happen is I lose my sub-30 hour a week job, and someone else gets their prayers answered for more shifts (offsetting their cost of living a sliver) while I get to have Mr Ulcer come back over concerns about how I'll feed my family.

I'm not saying a nation wide stoppage wouldn't have an impact - but this nation is geographically massive compared to your average European country. There is no social safety net outside of if someone is lucky enough to be in a defanged union.

Calling for general strikes in this way feels like an oil exec saying I should use paper straws/recycle to save the environment while they are boiling the ocean.

And look at them roll out the excuses about not striking.

It doesn’t matter, the only thing weaker than an American politician is an American citizen. They have excuses for the lot, ones they don’t offer others, and when they are told they react with American foreign policy…attack.

I wish we were, badasses that is. Most of those badasses with weapons are more like gravy seals that probably like all this racist bullshit. Most of us are too scared to get noticed like this. I’m not sure what it would take to rile us up to do something about it. Right now I feel like we are the frogs in the pot that is slowly being heated up and everyone is just waiting for it to be over.

Don’t get me wrong I’m pissed but I have too many people relying on me to cause too much trouble. And I imagine I’m not the only one like that.

As if that means shit.

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