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submitted 5 hours ago by Jspelts@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

It was the movie of the day when I was coming of age. I wasn't a Molly Ringwald fan but did think Ally Sheedy was a great actor. Everyone my age at the time was all about Molly (and then all about a different kind of Molly 20 years later...), but the movie was a fad frenzy that I never saw until it came out on VHS (I grew up on a ranch). I was in 5th grade in 1985 when it originally came out. The local video rental place in town finally got the tape a few years later.

When I watched it, I identified halfway between the nerd (Anthony Michael Hall) and the social reject (Judd Nelson). I had the brain and the bad home, so I didn't exactly fit neatly into John Hugh's little compartments.

I still don't at 52 and it shows.

But I'm sure plenty of people from younger generations have seen the movie. Maybe they were forced to watch it via parents reminiscing about the "great 80's", or stayed in some hotel where they had cable and it was the only thing to watch besides Supermarket Sweep, or -- just said "hell with it" and streamed the damn thing.

So please, I'm looking for more than opinions (or God forbid, political BS) -- I want perspective. I want your thoughts and emotions and I'll go first:

I really thought it sucked that the "nerd" left alone. Everyone left with a soulmate but him. I also thought the movie completely avoided the whole rumor mill of "Brian's dad is the JANITOR!!!". Coming from a bad home, I really never wanted to introduce "badness" into anyone's home. I wanted an escape from my own home, albeit not with Molly. The whole weed thing -- actually -- was probably one of the most honest takes on the film.

That's my take. What's yours? And thank you!

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[-] Mostly_Gristle@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago

It's been a long time since I've watched it, but I think think they did Ally Sheedy's character dirty. The other characters got some kind of deep revelation about life, the universe, and everything, and pretty much all Ally Sheedy got was a new shade of lipstick. Her whole story arc basically boiled down to: just change everything about yourself and maybe the star football player will pay attention to you, because that's what really matters in life.

[-] Jspelts@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

Agreed! I hated that! Her character went from dark to "everything's fine now because I'm pretty and dating a jock" and that's so.... Bullshit!

At 52 (born before the wheel, but after fire), I can say characters like Ally Sheedy's role turned out to be the best people on the planet. The jocks and popular girls, not so much. And I'm not talking about money on this. I've seen the same "Allison" both rich and poor, turn out to be great human beings. The "Claires", not so much. Not saying there aren't great "Claire's" out there, but I agree -- the whole "jockism and pretty-ism is the goal" was a complete turn-off for me.

[-] helix@feddit.org 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

characters like Ally Sheedy’s role turned out to be the best people on the planet

Why? Sorry, still haven't watched it, but sounds philosophical. How do we grow people like this?

EDIT: ooooh, just found out that's where the quote comes from: "When you grow up, your heart dies."

Sounds like Allison would be right up my alley. Looks like this is going onto my watch list.

[-] Today@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

Agree with that. It's like all of the movies where a plain girl gets a haircut and makeup and is suddenly popular.

As for the movie as a whole, it's just a reminder that it's good to talk to people outside your circle - many have similar feelings and struggles.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago

The goth girl imagined all of it

[-] Jspelts@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

I say no. Allison would have burned the school down.

[-] helix@feddit.org 0 points 4 hours ago

Ooooh, it has goth girls. Sounds like I have to watch it after all. Does she have big tiddies and dominates people or is she a goth girl in looks only?

[-] disregardable@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 hours ago

90s baby/2000s child. It was good, some heartfelt moments, but I didn't really resonate with it as a teen. You've got to understand that when I was a teen, we had the tv show Glee. If you're not familiar, it's about a group of outcasts who learn to accept their social differences and come together as friends in glee club. It's a lot more "on the nose" than The Breakfast Club and it better reflected the social reality I was in.

[-] Jspelts@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I was alive and working in the 90's and 00's -- Please excuse me if I laugh, when I was a kid I thought people older than me didn't experience the 70's or 80's either!

But yes, I wasn't "growing up" in your coming-of-age times. My culture in school was a lot different than my Boomer parents had when they were in school (and likely different than what you had, although I'd say not as much as you think). My generation was the first generation to realize we wouldn't make it past our economic class no matter what we did. My own father doesn't speak to me, because I didn't "bust my ass" as "hard as he did" and own two houses before I turned 30 (I'm 52 now -- a loser even by your generation's account!). He knows nothing of how the middle class no longer captures 25% of GDP like they did in the 60's and 70's (we now capture 7% with two incomes), how real estate has skyrocketed because the politicians that own all the land keep utility companies from expanding the grid to perfectly habitable land outside the grid (if you buy land out in the sticks, there's zero utilities for you -- it's $20k per electrical pole installed and I won't even mention the water/sewer supply that was provided by the government back in their day when they bought their land "in the sticks"). So my generation was 100% raised and judged on "you gotta do better than us, like we did to the Silent Generation" while they stole the utilities and prevented us from recycling the very recipe they used for success. And then tossed us all in the garbage because they took away the very mechanism they used for "success".

And I want to say thanks for your reply. Seriously.

I, myself, told my father to go F himself a very long time ago. Haven't spoken in over 25 years. I hope he's dead. And hope the people like him die as well.

That being said, in school it was a very new thing to treat people of different skin colors as equal. It was huge. The "N" word was used frequently in the house I grew up in. At my grandfather's house, it was the de facto adjective for anything bad. I grew up split. Found out many years later we're all just a bunch of people trying to survive, most are good, some are bad. True with every color or occupation.

I think you and I would agree on some of the heartfelt moments. To be honest, those are the only saving qualities of the movie in my opinion. There are a few. Wishing you the best, sorry for my rant!

At the same time -- Food and shelter are obviously important. Never put your vote or money on anything that jeopardizes either. My 2 cents...

[-] DrBob@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 hours ago

I always hated it. Particularly because it ruined that Simple Minds song for me.

[-] Jspelts@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

The song came out long before I ever saw the movie -- and yes! I didn't like the way the movie stretch out the chords in the beginning! Brroooon--wooooooooooon-wooong-wooooooooooon-woong-woon-wooooong! It almost made me turn the movie off!

[-] helix@feddit.org 2 points 5 hours ago

GenY here. Never saw it. Why should I watch it?

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

The Breakfast Club was a 1985 movie depiction of teen rebellion for GenX teens written and directed by John Hughes where the teens act out against the rules and are smarter than the adults around them.

Not to be confused with "Ferris Bueller's Day Off" which was a 1986 movie depiction of teen rebellion for GenX teens written and directed by John Hughes where the teens act out against the rules and are smarter than the adults around them.

I prefer the latter to the former.

[-] Jspelts@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Save Ferris!!!

[-] helix@feddit.org 0 points 4 hours ago

Hahaha, nice description. Haven't seen either. Can't really say I'm interested in troubles of teenagers from 1985 as the current teenagers have more interesting issues, like their world being destroyed by GenX ex-teens, who now make the rules.

[-] Jspelts@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Let's actually count the GenX'rs in Congress, Presidency, Supreme Court...

[-] helix@feddit.org 1 points 4 hours ago

Good point! The people at the top are usually boomers and the GenXers only enable them, without actually being in power. Thank you for reminding me.

That said, there's more than one parliament in the world. You seem to be an US-American.

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 hours ago

Mainly only if you're into film as a hobby. Don't get me wrong, the stuff others have said about the story itself make it a good watch overall.

But it's no better in that regard than any other teen drama movie.

It's the way it was done that really makes it significant, imo.

Hughes had this really distinct visual style. Bright, vibrant, and kinda larger than life. He used it to take a look at slices of life that were, in the breakfast club, angsty as fuck. Most scenes are vivid, and the drama plays out in that almost candy coated world.

Since the cast was perfect for their roles, something else Hughes was great at imo, they managed to each fulfill their stereotype in a way that pops out of the screen. The very artificialiality of the cinematography and the almost cheesy costuming allows you to skip past a lot of immersion barriers and just enjoy the characters and dialogue.

Hughes was really good at that balance. The Breakfast Club is the best example of his vision. And, because it influenced so many other filmmakers and the industry, it's an important one to watch from that perspective, even if it isn't really going to resonate as well with someone born much later. Not that it can't, or won't at all, just that the entirety of teen living shifted post internet, and much of the gen Y range falls into that era.

So, yeah, if you're into film as a hobby or more serious interest, you need to see it, and Ferris Bueler. Maybe throw in uncle buck as well as planes, trains and automobiles. Those two are kind of inverse because they're built as comedies first, and that makes the vibe of the drama in them work different than his drama first movies (though Bueler may be debated about which it actually was as a base)

[-] SaneMartigan@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

It's a group of Saturday detention kids from the 80s. A slice of teen life movie. You could probably see if there's still similar concepts or what's changed about society since. It has many flaws but raises a number of issues that teens faced around that time.

[-] helix@feddit.org 1 points 4 hours ago

Thank you! Seems like it's more of a time capsule thing to see how people lived in the past than a movie to identify with, nowadays? Are the issues still relevant?

Maybe I can understand why GenX people act like they do. In my experience they're more about conformity and uniformity than rebellion nowadays, but that may come with age, not some generational discriminator.

[-] Jspelts@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Up to you, man. I won't give you a reason either way.

[-] helix@feddit.org 1 points 4 hours ago

Sad 🙂 thought if you'd love that movie, you'd at least have a reason to watch it.

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