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[-] NewDark@lemmy.today 75 points 3 weeks ago

Greta is one of the coolest people in the world right now istg

[-] SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Peter Thiel puts her in a sort of deity tier.

[-] dan69@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Only just bc this comment reminded me of this Zoolander scene!

[-] flandish@lemmy.world 10 points 3 weeks ago

i wish i could escape the ecosystem but ive been in it for decades now and have no idea how to:

  • de apple but still retain coherence and not need to treat my phone like a linux pc
  • i can de mac and use a linux pc; i do on my servers at home fine.
  • de google. see phone concerns.
  • i can happily self host a cloud. but whatever.

sigh. no clear checklist path.

thing is: i am a sw engineer already and have lazily enjoyed my phone being something i dont have to worry about day to day.

[-] BlackVenom@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

What exactly are the phone concerns tho?

[-] boonhet@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 weeks ago

Having to tinker with a Linux phone? There's tons of issues still.

[-] flandish@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

welp it is my understanding that a degoogled andrioid os phone involves a bunch of sysadmin steps to keep stuff updated and secure? i could be wrong!

[-] Aralakh@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 weeks ago

Not at all, perhaps only a modicum of technology confidence to do the install, though I can understand how it can feel/seem a tad daunting. Sent from my GrapheneOS pixel with no sysadmin knowledge 🫔.

[-] degen@midwest.social 2 points 3 weeks ago

Only if you consider using a different app than the play store to be sysadmin, really. Depending on your reliance on proprietary apps and ability to accept foss apps, it doesn't have to be much different.

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[-] majster@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago

I don't think it was ever that troublesome. But custom rom support was indeed a hit or miss thing. I bought FP6 with /e/OS preinstalled for this reason and had no issues. At least no major ones. No babysitting required stuff just works.

Other popular option is google pixel with graphene.

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[-] sibachian@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago

i left their ecosystem about 3 years ago now.

  • i replaced by macbook with a lenovo which came without any OS (no microsoft taint!).
  • i replaced by iphone with a fairphone running e/OS/, it can do anything my pro max could except take equally good photos, for some that might be a dealbreaker but avoiding US stuff is more important for me. there is also jolla as an alternative, but it costs three times as much.
  • i switched to pcloud (a swiss pay-once model) from icloud, it took a couple of hours to download 53.000 photos, since they limit it to 1000 at a time (maybe there was a better way to do it). it works so much better than icloud too.
  • i switched to several mail providers that weren't quite what i needed until i found a local server provider, costs me $20 a year + $20 for a domain, with some 50gb of email storage. they have since increased their price but i'm locked in to this offering. if they ever force bump the price i'd try mailbox.org though.
  • i tried to use cryptdrive for writing and documents but there is no native software and it's annoying to use on phone so i now basically do all my writing and notes in upnote. it's everything i need in terms of writing and sharing and uses a pay-once model. they also add all features i have personally ask for, so that's really cool.
  • i had already used bitwarden for all passwords and proton authenticator so i don't need to move any of that shit over.

i haven't used any google products in like 10 years anyway (it's why i switched to apple in the first place. but i feel like now the open source or european alternatives have finally caught up with the standards i need).

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[-] Majestic@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 weeks ago

I wouldn't bother with the mobile devices so much.

Google is deeply embedded in the zionist entity. It has multiple subdivisions located there, deep ties to their intelligence apparatus (and to the US intelligence apparatus) Jumping from paying apple $1000 for a phone to paying Google $1000 for a phone that you install another OS on doesn't really help IMO and is like jumping from a boiling pot into the deep fryer next to it.

Don't buy Mac computers, don't buy Apple accessories, don't buy in iTunes, and limit app store purchases where feasible. That and putting up some stickers/posters or making more people aware of this complicity to hit Apple even a little in the pocket will do more than switching phone ecosystems like that.

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[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

welcome to my world. lol

google's "dont be evil" motto suckered me in during the early 2000's and now i'm so quagmiresd in it that i can't find a single path for all of it.

atleast graphene for me will be slightly easier since i've mostly used android this entire time -- idk what iphone users will do.

[-] thanksforreading@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

NAS + linux everything

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[-] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

I promise I won't buy a Duo.

[-] ComradePedro@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 weeks ago

So what am I supposed to use instead? Android by Google? GrapheneOS on a Google Pixel? I reluctantly switched from Google Pixel to iPhone a year ago and plan on just not upgrading as long as possible tbh

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Motorola has a Graphene phone coming out soonTM. Else just buy a non-Google Android phone.

[-] SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 weeks ago

Do you have any idea how hard these are to get on most of the planet?

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago
[-] SocialistVibes01@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago
[-] BrickEater@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

LineageOS exists and can be installed on most androids in a day.

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[-] synapse1278@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

I was honestly disappointed when they said it's going to be a high-end phone costing over 1000€.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2026/08/motorolas-grapheneos-phones-will-launch-in-2027-priced-higher-than-pixels/

[-] ComradePedro@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

Google makes a huge amount of money from Android though so I’m curious to see what Motorola is cooking

[-] Spectrism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

You could always install AOSP-based ROMs (LineageOS, /e/, etc.) on those non-Google Android phones. Google doesn't really make any money from those (if you avoid Gapps).

If you want to avoid Android and iOS altogether, you're going to be disappointed with Motorola as well, because they'll keep using Android (which, just like the other ROMs, GrapheneOS is based on), leaving you with basically just Linux-based operating systems like postmarketOS, Ubuntu Touch or Sailfish OS.

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[-] nfreak@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 weeks ago

GrapheneOS on a secondhand pixel is the best choice, but that's not saying much tbh. The entire smartphone ecosystem is fucked.

[-] Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I love being carrier locked.

got a pixel 7a and was able to get to like, step 6 of intalling graphene until I realized, I have to contact and convince T-mobile to unlock my shit.

[-] cosmos8188@leminal.space 3 points 3 weeks ago

That is a valid concern, especially since there is no viable options. I guess the best option would be to ditch the phone and wait for the Linux phone - but that isn't necessarily viable either, so compromises have to be made - for now.

[-] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 weeks ago

used pixel and graphene

or Fairphone 6+ and e/os

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[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 weeks ago

I'll join, but I already thought Apple was overpriced bullshit.

Idiots love it, though.

[-] TiredTiger@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago

Haven't they been on the BDS list for a while now?

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The official BDS list is very small and targeted and does not contain Apple (yet). BDS is meant as a starting point for the most important companies to boycott according to the BDS org. Boycotting beyond that is still effective.

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[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Why in the hell would you setup R&D for a computer company in Isreal for any reason that isn't a bribe of some sort?

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 weeks ago

Israelis infiltrate companies and then try to funnel investment of the company into Israel and hire more Israelis. It's the most blatant nepotism and corruption you'll ever see.

[-] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 weeks ago

oh weird, i thought isreal was mainly into beeper technology.....

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

only for the dirty brown people who don't know their place. :p

[-] Vgcjt@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago

Ive been working on eliminating genocide consumption from my life. I got rid of windows. I am not working on google.

[-] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 weeks ago

Just get to feel better and better about buying a fairphone.

[-] Alexfire@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

That does suck they did that, such a "great american company", like so many others don't really care about the country where they started. It's business and they create jobs elsewhere, and then people blame on Dems for wanting safe workplaces, benefits and livable incomes for people, rather than the businesses that chose others over We The People. Truth.

[-] last_mango@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago

I use a de-Googled phone with /e/OS installed. Works like a dream!

You can also go to https://plexus.techlore.tech/ to check app compatibilities. I discovered new apps via https://switchdigest.eu/.

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