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New "Siri Recap" Feature for Apple Watches Can Create Summaries of Your Conversations Throughout the Day, Apple Says (www.privacyguides.org)
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[-] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago

I don't know how they can make this legal in a Two Party Consent state. Even if the raw recording is not made available to the user, it is still recording people without their consent. Additionally, I don't know if "summary recaps" of recordings fall under the same laws as raw audio recordings.

As much as I would absolutely love to be able to go back and re-listen to conversations to make sure I remembered important information (my wife gets pissed at me for forgetting things all the time), this is a privacy nightmare.

[-] bigmamoth@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

LG tv sort it out by making the reponsability of the user to announce to anybody cooling to your home, be aware the tv listen you. It s litteraly in their term of service

[-] adhdsergio@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I saw Gamers nexus explaining this recently. They said that if if you're able to hear what the other person is saying then fair game as they can't reasonably expect privacy, but if they go into a room or car then you can't use sensitive equipment to record them. Essentially use a mic with the sensitivity of a standard human ear

[-] ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

True in a single party consent state, but its a felony to record conversations of others without their knowledge in a two (or all) party consent state.

[-] adhdsergio@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Fair enough. I think in most of europe it isn't even allowed

[-] apftwb@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago

More relevant every single day.

[-] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago

Sorry I don't want to talk to you with that watch on.

[-] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 51 points 4 days ago

Ew. No.

[-] LeftReddit2@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

Hold on guys, I need to ask the AI what my opinion about this is.

[-] ParkedInReverse@lemmy.world 39 points 4 days ago

Apple learning from LG and put their own icing on it. Disgusting.

[-] lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago

fuck this with a fork

[-] CalemitousVariantK@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

So, it listens all day, records everything you say or anyone near you says (regardless of their permission), and transmits it to a central server for processing, then returns an AI slop edition?

And those who have one paid full price?

[-] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

'It happens on device' - riiighhttt.....

[-] paulcdb@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

'It happens on device'

… before sending it to Apple and 3,000+ data brokers and palantir!

fixed

[-] Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 2 points 2 days ago

"Slop me, mommy!" is the command.

[-] spacegoat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

How do I disable

[-] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 10 points 4 days ago

Ulgh.

In some sense, I'm simultaneously trying to stay aware of specific features and companies that I want to register displeasure of, but also there are clearly underlying technologies that are part of an open Pandora's box. We all need to realize that the ubiquity of microphones, data transfer, and AI summarization means that we need to be prepared to live in this world. We can work to hold certain companies accountable, but there's no going back to a time when it wasn't possible for a bad actor to record a room full of hundreds of people in a union hall or socialist meeting and then afterwards try and identify voices and build summaries over time of who are the most influential members and things like this. These are technologies that we're going to have to figure out how to navigate.

[-] MrOtingocni@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Lol, somebody you don't know knows where you're at right now. Literally, your exact location right now. And where you've been today, and everywhere you've been for the last year. And where you're most likely going in the next few hours. Everything you've bought, said, and texted. What vehicles you own, your entire family and relationship history. Your dna, fingerprint, retina pattern, and medical history. And on and on.

And we just keep giving it to them.

I mean, you are absolutely correct in your statement but people have no idea how much of the infrastructure is already in place and humming along. Our only momentary grace is that it still revolves around merchants and different data points are consolidated in various countries rather than accessible by any one group worldwide. Yet. But you can buy profiles of anyone. Well, we can't but governments can.

International corporations are pushing this hard, and have been laying the ground work for the last 20 years, and their biggest clients, countries, are eating it up.

All this stuff coming up recently about mics in your electronics, flock cameras, AI in everything, is just a tiny icicle sticking up from the massive glacier that is the data collection that has been going full steam since the 2000s. We are surprised miners standing around a recently discovered dead canary trying to decide if we should exit the mine.

The trap has already been sprung.

[-] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I sometimes wonder what the outcome would be if instead of protecting privacy, we switched to nullifying the asymmetry of surveillance.

I'm not advocating for this: I know this idea is radical and unpopular and likely very dangerous. But if a majority of us concluded that we'd reached a point where protecting our individual privacy was no longer possible, what would it look like if we accepted a panopticon society, but through law and hacking, forced the information to be universally available to all?

What if my movements and political attitudes and sexual preferences were tracked by the government, but rather than being known exclusively to the state, this was public information, as were the identities of every member of law enforcement and their locations, associations, and thoughts too.

Would it level the playing field? Would it break the state's love of surveillance if the tools couldn't be contained for their use? I rather hope we don't reach the point where we need to test this.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

With a hammer.

[-] TDCN@feddit.dk 7 points 3 days ago

Give me the source code or it's not running locally on device!

[-] gedfromgont@piefed.ca 6 points 3 days ago

Where's all the people from here now who praised Apple and vowed their next phone will be an Iphone after Google announced their mandatory developer verification?

[-] Kaligalis@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

This is Apple's glasshole moment.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 7 points 3 days ago

Pretty sure we already saw long ago how it can fuck them up as well.

[-] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago

Not creepy at all

[-] hperrin@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago

Gross and weird.

[-] kokesh@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

So it sends everything you say to Apple. Brilliant.

[-] TrippinMallard@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Great, now we can shout questionable phrases around these wiretaps so their owners' AI puts them on a watchlist.

[-] LemmyEntertainYou@piefed.social 3 points 3 days ago

Guess I now need to avoid all iPhone users.

[-] Zier@fedia.io 2 points 3 days ago

I am so thankful that I never let apple into my life.

[-] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 days ago

This was that AI pin years ago...

[-] WolfmanEightySix@piefed.social 2 points 3 days ago

I’m presuming that they know I don’t want this and just want to sell my data, or worse?

[-] Ripley_Tripley@lemmus.org 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

This is hard as shit to avoid when your job requires you to use a Iphone, but they dont want you to download "the Chinese apps" 😑

Fucking ridiculous.

[-] THE_GR8_MIKE@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Including your banking information, great!

[-] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I mean, they already have a Wallet app that has that info.

[-] emmanuel_car@fedia.io 1 points 3 days ago

Yes, because I have absolutely read aloud my banking/credit card information at all in the last 10 years…

[-] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not.

In case you are being sarcastic, I read aloud my credit card information occasionally... probably once every 3 months if I were to guess. I rarely read aloud my banking info, though.

That said, iPhones already save your credit card and banking info in the wallet app.

[-] emmanuel_car@fedia.io -1 points 2 days ago

I was being entirely sarcastic, I don’t even remember the last time I had to read sensitive info aloud, everything I do is either online or face to face where I can hang someone the info they need.

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