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Since 1 September, Austria has banned headscarves for female pupils under 14 at state and private schools. Repeated breaches of the rule could lead to fines of €150 to €800 for parents.

Since the start of the 2026/27 school year on 1 September, female pupils in Austria under the age of 14 have been prohibited from wearing any headscarf at school that "covers the head in line with Islamic traditions."

Teachers' representatives say the new rule has generally been implemented calmly and respectfully. At the same time, some schools have reported conflicts and, in some cases, aggressive reactions.

The new law was already controversial before it came into force, with critics questioning whether it was compatible with freedom of religion and the principle of equality.

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[-] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I've been to a few countries, and every one of them have had public dress codes for many decades.

And businesses have their own rules in addition. No masks here. Masks there. No sunglasses. No nudity. Nude beach. No shirt, no shoes, no service. No thongs. Suit jacket required. Collar shirt required. No offensive t-shirts. No jeans.

If they wish to a be a part of a society or use a business, do it; if they don't like the rules there, they can always live/do business somewhere where they find the dress codes appropriate.

If you know of a country with no legal dress codes, please share where that is.

[-] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Education and incomeAccording to the MIPEX Index, access barriers to the labor market for immigrants are relatively low but unemployment is significantly more common among Muslims than among the average population at large. Approximately 40% Muslims born in Austria leave school before age 17.

They wanna increase that to 70%

[-] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 4 points 10 hours ago

I thought girls weren't required by Islam to wear headscarfs until that age anyway?

[-] bigmamoth@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

Some will say they aren't requires at all other will put it around the age of 3.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 6 points 13 hours ago

Watch the average Liberal agree with far right parties because they are racist again.

[-] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Head scarves laws/rules are not "racist", please try again.

[-] WormFood@lemmy.world 38 points 20 hours ago

If the ban is intended to stop children from feeling pressured to dress in a way that conforms to their family's religion, why does it only target islam and not extend to other religious garments or accessories (e.g. kippah, turban, crucifix)?

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[-] QuickSuccess@lemmy.ca 10 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

As a non Muslim who was born and lived in a Muslim majority country, I 100% agree with this ban. Children shouldn't be forced or indoctrinated into that oppressive way of life. When they grow up, they can wear it if they want.

There are millions, possibly hundreds of millions of women and girls around the world that are forced to wear that (or even more extreme versions of it) against their will. Just because we have some anecdotes of women wanting to wear it (after being brainwashed their whole lives with it) doesn't mean that banning it would infringe on anyone's rights.

Believe me there are entire countries where if you as a woman went there you would be forced to cover up 😢.

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[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 21 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

The government says the main goal is to protect children's development and their freedom to develop as individuals, arguing that girls should be protected from potential family or social pressure to wear a headscarf.

If that is really the objective, then make domestic religious coercion liable to incur fines and institute mechanisms for kids to safely report coercion and for protecting and defending the choices of girls. You force your daughter to wear something against her will? She reports it to a safe adult at school and you get a visit from child services. The same mechanisms of course should be in place for protecting kids from bullying, domestic violence, atheist kids, queer and trans kids, kids whose parents are far right extremists, kids who support a different football team than their dads, metalhead kids, etc. Protecting kids is uncontroversial.

[-] bigmamoth@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Such a great idea. Already in place regarding genital mutilation which is far simpler to rule cause it s de facto illegal and concmsent is impossible at that age and yet this type of precaution does nothing for one simple reason. Theses people are Muslim citizen before being citizen of the place they live. All their social life happen inside Muslim ideology. It s litteraly grooming

[-] anarchy79@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago

"You can't wear those clothes here!! This an open and free society! Here in Austria we follow The One True Dresscode."

[-] mlg@lemmy.world -1 points 8 hours ago

I love opening these posts to see a wave of garbage europeans who would turn around and claim they have best free speech and nonsecularist nations in the world.

For all of America's insane faults, it is ironic that the first amendment is still something a majority of the EU has failed to match, and is often surpassed by plenty more third world countries and actual warzones.

These same people were defending France's pool swimwear law banning full cover swimwear and water proof headscarves.

[-] joranm1@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 hours ago

Free speech means you are free to debate about decisions, and has nothing to do with the freedom to believe in whatever pleases you.

And speaking of freedom of worship, there are many ways to implement it, from the US where you can do anything in the open - including blatant proselytism - to France where on the contrary, you don't have the right to do anything religious in the public space - arguably not ideal either.

So, because no law is perfect and you are free to express yourself on the subject, you are free to tell us garbage Europeans how you think it should be done 😉

[-] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 14 points 23 hours ago

You know theres also the solution of just making sure theyre not forced to wear it. The problem is not a fucking piece of clothing but systematic oppression. The west happily does systematic oppression so long as it doesnt look bad. The only difference in other places is that it looks bad from the outside. You shouldnt change the looks of it but what actually happens. And on top of that, if you have a child in a school that is visibly distressed because theyre forced to wear something thats a sign of something not being right. If the government bans it youre removing a sign of abuse. Its like making having bruses illegal in public, youre not solving abuse just making everybodys life randomly a bit worse and hiding the signs of some abuse. Stupid ass law

[-] racemaniac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 20 hours ago

"You know theres also the solution of just making sure theyre not forced to wear it." Just honest curiosity, but how? This sounds really difficult in any case, let alone with young children.

[-] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 6 points 19 hours ago

I mean our whole social system is based on that. Teachers, doctors, coaches, etc already have the job of being the substitute parents or friends of children so this is just the extension of that existing job. The actual role of school, especially middle and high school, isnt really about shoving a shit ton of bullshit down the throats of kids but to expand their worldview, train their social skills, and yes, notice and report abuse when necessary. Forcing a child to wear a certian religious garment is abuse. But the child participating in it willingly shouldnt be illegal, i think thats ridiculous. I know there are a lot of reddit atheists here on lemmy but the same way any other choice is someones, religion should be too. Of course organized religion used to spread hate is different but as someone who lives in a city in sweden where religion is something that helps organize community rather than something that is used to spread hate, makes me think theres a world where everyone can believe in whataver they believe.

[-] bigmamoth@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

So u live in the country where political figure make Ads in Arabic language for their elections and u think u will have a say on can u remove ilsmaic veil from a child even if the child is strong enough to go against anything he was raise into and claim it was impose against his will ? U delusional.

[-] SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 1 day ago

If not for religion, banning a scarf would be universally seen as inane.

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Ban religions on kids. Best law.

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