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[-] panthera_@lemmy.today 1 points 1 hour ago

Democrats should propose that if the NAZA filmmakers' citizenships are revoked, they would be permitted to come to the US.

[-] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 1 points 7 minutes ago

With all due respect, Democrats shouldn't be offering safe harbor to exiled dissidents: they should be threatening to sanction Israel if it exiles dissidents.

They should be a doing a lot of other things too, but we need to be much clearer with our demands. These people are Israeli, and deserve protection in their own country. I don't think they want to leave, I think they want their country to change.

[-] ryannathans@aussie.zone 1 points 18 minutes ago

AIPAC publicly backs 152 democrats so probably won't happen

[-] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 15 points 6 hours ago

This is something a strong nation that is secure in its moral identity would do

[-] anarchy79@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

They are a free nation. Free to deport or murder anyone they want to.

[-] Rat_in_a_hat@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

The only democracy in the middle east apparently!

[-] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago

*Democracy with Israeli characteristics

[-] KC_Royalz@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

Mmmm why don't I believe you

[-] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 hours ago

Idk prolly antisemitism 🤷‍♀️

[-] KC_Royalz@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Ok now I believe you

[-] yesman@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I just want to point out how to many people, the crimes against the Palestinians aren't legitimate until the story is told by an Israeli. The way Israeli voices are viewed as credible while Palestinian voices are suspicious is one of the most pervasive consequences of the colonial project.

I don't mean to criticize these filmmakers for their identities or imply their project is bad. I'm saying that all of the coverage of this leans heavily on their identities as a mark and sign of authenticity and repute. Compare to the Arab journalists who literally died to bring you this same story.

[-] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 minutes ago

Yeah: the filmmakers themselves have said this repeatedly as well.

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 28 points 9 hours ago

The Israeli Supreme Court ruled in 2022 that the government can revoke an Israeli person’s nationality if they fail to show “loyalty,” including through acts that are found to be treasonous. The interior minister must submit a revocation request to the justice minister and judges must also validate the revocation.

Just apartheid state things.

[-] anarchy79@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Pledging allegiance to the flag springs to mind, from two historical examples.

[-] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Religious right to the land of Palestine until the Israeli government doesn't consider you Jew enough

[-] daychilde@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago

Reminder of the irony of the term:

NAZA is a military acronym derived from the Hebrew term nezek agavi,[4] and is used by the Israeli Defense Force to indicate the number of civilians expected to be killed in an airstrike as collateral damage, also known as Non-combatant casualty value

Ironic that the Israeli government uses a term that many people will confuse with "NAZI".

[-] Cheese_man@lemmy.world 13 points 9 hours ago

Isn't Israel supposed to be a bastion of freedom and democracy in the Middle East?

[-] rumimevlevi@sh.itjust.works 17 points 8 hours ago

It never was

[-] Doorbook@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

The entire co concept of Zionist state is based on genocide. Not sure what these people expect when they realize this system for what it is. Every human coming from another country should pack their stuff and leave before it is too late.

[-] anarchy79@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

They literally want to go Old Testament on people, and we should kind of be above that by now.

[-] A_norny_mousse@piefed.zip 29 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Must be painful when Israeli Jews* point out and unveil the atrocities perpetrated by Israel.

Of course they call it treason.

Can't wait to see the film. Classic Streisand effect!

* going by their names

PS: I thought NAZA is a portmanteau of Nazi and Gaza, created by the film makers. Israeli intelligence itself coming up with that name is a self-own imo.

[-] daychilde@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

PS

Yes, the name is very unfortunately hilarious. You know 75% of the people seeing the term (like me before I understood what it actually meant) will associated it with "nazi", especially considering the current state of Israeli politics. It's almost too on the nose.

[-] Tolc@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

so NAZA filmmakers are israelis? lol

[-] anarchy79@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

There are a lot of progressive Israelis that are fully on board with what us in the West are saying about the genocide.

You don't get to hear them much but there is definitely resistance. Thank god.

[-] Tolc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

if they were against israel, they wouldnt be in israel and be its citizens. Hope this helps

[-] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 17 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

I choose to believe that 10 years from now, Yuval Abraham and Rachel Szor will be leaders of a free Israel-Palestine, and the people who called for their denaturalization will be dead or living out life sentences for perpetrating atrocities.

I hope Abraham and Szor are careful, though. That future does assume that they survive long enough to reach it.

Either way, there can be no doubt that history will view their journalism and activism with great admiration.

[-] BigBoyShuanzee@aussie.zone 8 points 11 hours ago

Israel are the Nazis of the 2020s I hate you Israel as much as I hate Nazi Germany and almost as much as I hate child predators...

[-] Rat_in_a_hat@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

Just the 2020s? You should hear some interviews with early IDF members when they were ethnically cleansing Palestine in the 40s and 50s.

These old farts on camera just chuckling to themselves as they retell gunning down civilians that were on their knees.

[-] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 hours ago

I mean, the IDF are essentially child predators at this point so...

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