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Yes, that Exxon

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[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.today 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Conservatives are already calling Exxon "woke".

As long as conservatives continue to live, they will do everything in their power to oppress and kill everyone.

[-] weps@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

next extreme weather event is called "Exxon"

[-] SteveLeo@piefed.social 2 points 6 days ago

If my air conditioner could talk, all it would say is “it’s too hot in here”

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago

Of course that Exxon. They are afraid now that CO2 is rising and the consequences get more and more obvious, people will demand action, and their profits would suffer. If coal had contributed less, Exxon would be able to hold out for longer.

[-] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 week ago

Yup, almost sounds like they're just trying to deflect blame and avoid getting in the crosshairs.

[-] betanumerus@lemmy.ca 41 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"Don't let coal emissions warm the globe, that's OUR job!"

[-] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 week ago

We are living in the clownest timeline...

[-] BigMacHole@thelemmy.club 22 points 1 week ago

But ALSO it's NOT our Fault!

-Exxon!

[-] grue@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago
[-] Egonallanon@feddit.uk 7 points 1 week ago

That headline makes my brain hurt.

[-] arak@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago

Welcome to Trump America

[-] antheraeavx@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Smoke and mirrors. This is representative of Exxon's general strategy. There is a partial admission of the dangers of climate warming, followed by an absolute refusal to change trajectory. This has not changed, and as long as capital depends on it, it never will.

The headline is not necessarily misleading. It paints an incomplete picture, though. These paragraphs in the article are more relevant (to me) than Exxon's immaterial admissions concerning climate change:

ExxonMobil’s Energy Outlook typically shows strong demand for oil and natural gas for decades into the future even as the world attempts to reduce emissions.

“We are seeing clear signs that coal is sticking longer from an energy security and other perspectives, specifically in parts of Asia-Pacific, China, and others,” Joshi said.

In Exxon's Global Executive Summary, mentioned in the article, coal use is predicted to decrease by 30% by 2050 to be replaced by renewables and natural gas. This is, at best, replacing fossil fuels with fossil fuels.

The mention of including fewer emission-reduction technologies and fewer CCS projections was also interesting:

Other changes in ExxonMobil’s outlook include fewer emission-reduction technologies. Projections for carbon capture and storage, and use of low-carbon hydrogen, dropped by about one-third from last year.

It makes me believe there is no more budget for putting on an overshoot-and-return charade to justify our reliance on fossil fuels. None of this is surprising or remarkable, though. This is not the downfall of Exxon, as the headline might have you believe, this is still business as usual.

[-] Gladaed@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago

Exxon has a long history of highlighting the dangers of climate change. This is not out of the ordinary.

[-] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

Did you mean covering up and targeting people who were trying to warn about it? Or was that a joke I didn't catch?

[-] Gladaed@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
[-] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

*after getting caught doing it for DECADES and lying about it

[-] Gladaed@feddit.org 0 points 1 week ago

They were standard oil till 72. The landmark Exxon papers were published in 78. That's not decades of time.

[-] antheraeavx@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 week ago

I agree that this is not out of the ordinary for Exxon.

Available documents show a discrepancy between what ExxonMobil’s scientists and executives discussed about climate change privately and in academic circles and what it presented to the general public.

This excerpt from one of the studies you posted shows that they were certainly not publicly vocal about it, though.

That’s not decades of time.

They did manufacture doubt about the scientific consensus, they did fund entities advancing climate denialism, they did lobby against regulatory measures. That is decades of time. Publishing climate change papers in the 70s does not absolve them of the crime of covering up the same information obtained through those papers.

[-] Gladaed@feddit.org 2 points 1 week ago

Yes. And they are still doing that with this paper.

[-] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Jesus Christ... nope, I'm out. If someone else wants to pick it up from here feel free but I've had my fill of aggravation today.

[-] Gladaed@feddit.org 2 points 1 week ago

I don't get how highlighting this is not an unusual news and not a change in their behavior is frustrating to you.

They are continuing their brand of distracting the public/looking good. This is not a statement written out of the good of their hearts. And they have done so for halve a century.

[-] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Your responses seem to suggest that they have been open about this all along which comes off as pretty fucking disingenuous and ignores a lot of the other shit they did.

Have they created reports here and there which may or may not have been shown to the public at the time? Sure. So fucking what? That doesn't really excuse anything at all. It doesn't absolve them of what they have done, at all.

[-] Gladaed@feddit.org 0 points 4 days ago

Yes. They have been using high profile studies for decades to distract the public. Those reports were important in the public discourse. Even more so then this current, widely ignored, paper.

[-] DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 1 points 6 days ago

I think they might be frustrated with the no change in behavior part?

[-] Gladaed@feddit.org 1 points 6 days ago

Maybe they feel I advocate for instead of against them. This post looks like hope posting. I guess I should use more redundant and simple statements.

[-] DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 1 points 6 days ago

There were parts where you did kinda seem to be giving them credit if you look at some if the posts without the context of your other comments (which they may not have seen?).

[-] Gladaed@feddit.org 1 points 6 days ago

I have them credit for this not being a change in their behavior. True. I considered this paper to be in bad faith from the get go for it highlights the responsibility of their competition. Carbon footprints etc. are distractions. So is shooting your buddy in the leg to flee from an ever hungry polar bear. You cannot run. They will come. The bear must not regard you for this dutyful help in his ever hungry task. If it takes them longer in total they must feel disdain instead.

Guess I am tired and wordy ^^

[-] kingofras@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

There’s not going to be enough popcorn for these last few episodes of this final season.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 1 week ago
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