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[-] WereCat@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

I write my own emails just because I can end each sentence with period.

[-] magnue@lemmy.world 25 points 18 hours ago

I hate when people use AI for emails. I'd rather just read the prompt they gave to AI so I can read the actual meat of it rather than having to sift through the slop for it.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 10 hours ago

That's because people just let AI write an email and then just send it. Usually require some massaging to turn it into something that looks moderately human.

[-] Glytch@lemmy.world 5 points 9 hours ago

Or save editing time and write it your self. No need to massage robot vomit.

[-] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 47 points 20 hours ago

If you write either of these 4 emails I hate you.

"I was just so surprised by how different the responses were," Van Koevering said. "Some responses were so bad I couldn't believe the model would suggest it. And sometimes I just thought, "Wow I should be more careful in my emails.'"

Why aren’t you writing your own correspondence, I do not understand.

[-] adarza@lemmy.ca 10 points 10 hours ago

if you have to be that verbose when prompting 'ai' to write an email, just dictate the damn message using speech-to-text.

[-] stealth_cookies@lemmy.ca 20 points 20 hours ago

Especially when responding to someone writing you to express gratitude, using an LLM is super disrespectful IMO. You shouldn't need an LLM to write, "You're welcome, thank you for helping with ____."

Be concise in your emails, that respects a person's time and still gets the message across.

[-] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 3 points 19 hours ago

write a reply email to this reply email expressing thanks for expressing thanks, for our earlier email expressing thanks to their thanks

[-] ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 20 hours ago

Different prompts result in different responses...*shocked pikachu face*

[-] python@lemmy.world 13 points 18 hours ago

Fuck that. Emailing coworkers shouldn't be a formal thing. Just wastes everyone's time.

I wrote my last email today and it was literally just 3 sentences.

  1. Hi, tomorrow is my last day, thanks for the good time.
  2. Snacks and champagne in the break room at 1pm.
  3. My socials if you wanna keep in touch.

I could have had the company-mandated AI make it "professional" and unnecessarily long but nah, I'd rather be human.

[-] cenzorrll@piefed.ca 1 points 56 minutes ago

My emails are usually "I ordered an amount of these things in case anybody noticed we were out" and "finished this leg of this project, moving on to the next". Occasionally there's "Thank you for clearing that up , I'll touch base with for the details and get out of your way."

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 10 hours ago

I love that you're giving everyone champagne at lunchtime. The rest of the day is going to have negative productivity.

[-] Vikthor@piefed.world 2 points 7 hours ago

Depends on how much Champagne will be served. They might just hit the Ballmer peak.

[-] solrize@lemmy.ml 21 points 21 hours ago

How about writing your own emails instead of sending slop.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

The company are the ones that mandate that we use the dam thing. They are actually threatening to right people up if they don't use it enough but then not specifying what enough means. So now it's getting used for everything.

Enjoy your overly verbose email, perhaps you should get AI to summarize it. That way, we both get to use it, yay.

[-] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 5 points 15 hours ago

AI makes everyone sound bad. Everywhere.

[-] badgermurphy@lemmy.world 10 points 19 hours ago

Many find AI-drafted emails insulting to their time regardless of what they say, and those that don't have the AI summarize the emails for them anyway, so I think this may be a tempest in a teacup.

[-] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 0 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

When prompts to draft work emails and job applications contain language commonly used by women, artificial intelligence chatbots including ChatGPT offer less sophisticated responses compared to office correspondence requested with language associated with men

Ok, we know that LLMs work basically as text completion and will adapt the language used in the response to the one used in the prompt. Their findings basically tell us that "language commonly used by women" is found in text content that is "less complex, at a lower grade level, and less formal". It's just statistics. To fix this "bias" they would have to artificially create loads of complex and formal text that uses "language commonly used by women" and use it to train LLMs. Not sure what the point of that would be though. If you want complex and formal response just write a complex and formal prompt.

[-] Akrenion@slrpnk.net 6 points 8 hours ago

Maybe it just means that women get treated with condescending answers more often especially in the Internet. That is my personal experience and not based on studies but there is a reason people want to defund gender studies and I do not like it.

[-] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 points 8 hours ago

Could be but the article is not talking about "more condescending" language but specifically about language that's less formal and at a lower grade level. I'm not sure if condescending answers are automatically also "dumbed down". I also think the way training text is gathered and fed into LLMs would separate different authors and context or we would see similar issues with all types of prompts. I can't definitely say it's not the reason but I think “language commonly used by women is more common in less formal texts” is a simpler and more convincing answer.

[-] Akrenion@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 hour ago

We do see these issues in a lot of ways because llms train on bias. More polite answers get more verbose and angry answers get less verbose. There are a lot of these "hacks" that exploit this.

[-] ryannathans@aussie.zone 1 points 11 hours ago

Tldr authors assume women use AI poorly

[-] nanashinow@programming.dev 5 points 18 hours ago

in my opinion , you sound bad using the ai to write the email anyways

[-] CackNClap@infosec.pub 4 points 20 hours ago

I would like to see how relevant this "language associated with women" is when looking at actual AI prompts. Seems like it could have easily just described the style of prompt. Good for anyone to be aware of I guess? Maybe just learn to write a good email instead of a good prompt though.

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