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I need your help to settle this perpetual disagreement in my home. I'm team 'skon' whereas my husband is team 'skone.'

Some context, we are not native to the UK so I will humbly accept consensus.

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[–] EinfachUnersetzlich@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Scone. Anyone who says scone is wrong.

[–] scrchngwsl@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago

Hard to disagree with that.

[–] docclox@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Rhymes with "gone"

[–] rubikfrog@feddit.uk 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This thread is asking for trouble

[–] chaosppe@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Agreed, I think half the community will turn against me if I post my answer 🗿

[–] wildeaboutoskar@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

At least nobody has asked which order to put the jam and cream on, there'd be carnage

[–] addie@feddit.uk 7 points 1 year ago

Edinburgh-er here - skon for the cake thing, skoon for the town. Skown never.

Normally when you say 'skoon' you're referring to the 'stone of scone', our big lump of magical red sandstone, which is obviously completely unlike any other bit of rock you might find on your travels. Used to be what the kings/queens of Scotland were crowned upon until the English stole it for theirs to sit on; if you say it that way, we'll have to assume you're interested in a debate about the role and future of the monarchy and will engage you.

[–] Emsquared@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've always said scone as in bone. My Aussie other half says skon so by default I end up saying "scone slash scon". I count this as being billingual.

[–] Higlerfay@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Best answer yet, esp since I imagine you have plenty of fun colloquialisms with an Aussie partner!

[–] Emsquared@feddit.uk 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ha. Thanks. Navigating those delicate variations in the shared English language (lollies for sweets, chips for crisps and yet chips are chips. I'll never get that). Oddly my OH says pasta as in parstar compared to my pasta as in..er..Rasta. Language eh.Don't get me started on Yoghurt as in Yowghurt.

[–] scott@lem.free.as 3 points 1 year ago

But pasta is Italian (alright, it's Chinese (props to Messrs. Polo)) and they pronounce it the Australian way.

Disclosure: I grew up in Australia but live here now.

[–] Loccy@feddit.uk 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'll bite.

It's a "skone". Clue is in the fact it's spelt "scone", ie just substitute the K for a C. It it was a skon it would be called a scon.

/thread

[–] Jaidyn999@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

The town in Scotland is pronounced "Skoon".

[–] sideone@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Skone, like phone and bone.

[–] icky_mess@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Skon, like shone and gone.

[–] Doug@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago

shone and gone

Those don't rhyme

[–] Hanhula@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Which is precisely why 'shone' and 'shown' are said the same way, of course.

[–] haych@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago

For me, I pronounce it as cone with an s at the start. Whereas my parents pronounce it as con with an s at the start.

Scone makes more sense then scon, purely by spelling, if it was scon then it would be spelt "scon".

[–] sabret00the@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago

Scone rhymes with stone

[–] wildeaboutoskar@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Didn't think we'd be getting to the drama quite so soon!

I'm in the south west and I say it like 'cone' with an s at the start. I view the other way as being posh, but oddly enough it's the other way around for people in other parts of the country.

One of the things I love about the UK is the diversity in terms of accents, it's so rich

[–] Higlerfay@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I had a feeling what I was walking into with this question.. Can't say i expected the draw it's turned into though!

Scone rhymes with gone, much to the annoyanve of my partner who rhymes it with stone.

[–] Fog@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm a commoner, so it's Scon for me! As humans we tend to cut out words and letters due to laziness, or to put it positively, to save time 😂.

[–] fross@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Scon to rhyme with gone is how posh people say it - the Queen said it that way herself!

[–] mdwhite999@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I'm from the south of England but live on the east coast of Scotland and I pronounce it Skon

[–] agreyworld@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Grew up in Yorkshire where we will shorten anything but an "o" sound, which instead becomes very long. So scone rhymes "stone", with extra "o".

Slap bang in the blue area: https://brilliantmaps.com/scone-map/

[–] bug@lemmy.one 3 points 1 year ago

This is some serious analysis!

Same here. Always used to associate the short o scone with "posh" people.

I love the map, thanks for sharing, it's an interesting visualisation

[–] Deccarrin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Easy, it's Skone until you eat it, then it's Skon.

[–] InduperatorRex@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Technically neither is "correct" (as if a pronunciation by native speakers could be in any way wrong) as it's originally a Scots word, and in Scots it's pronounced [skɔn] so that it rhymes with "lawn"

[–] Deccarrin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Easy, it's Skone until you eat it, then it's Skon.

[–] valkyrie@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Brought up in the home counties and it's always been scone (bone) to me.

Related controversy: café, one or two syllables??

[–] docclox@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Depends. If it's a greasy spoon sort of place, then caff. If it's a bit posh, then caff-ay

[–] mdwhite999@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I agree. A caff and a caffay are 2 different things

[–] Higlerfay@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm my unqualified opinion, two for sure. How do you even say it otherwise? Caff?

[–] valkyrie@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I would say it with two but I know plenty who say it caff!

I feel bad for that é, it barely gets to do anything in English and then when it gets a chance people ignore it anyway smh 😔

[–] Higlerfay@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Well now I've been sent down a rabbit hole on borrowed words in English and am very upset that décor has been made so boring.

[–] edent@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

That's easy. I pronounce it correctly.

[–] Other@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago
[–] grumpyoldgit@feddit.uk 2 points 1 year ago

I grew up in the west midlands in a 'skone' household, but have since moved to Scotland and live with a scottish person who accuses me of being posh if I pronounce it that way. I generally use 'skon' now in the interests of domestic harmony. I do draw the line at 'skoon' though; that's just wrong.

[–] Deccarrin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Easy, it's Skone until you eat it, then it's Skon.

[–] apathytomorrow@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago

When I was in home counties it was "sk-oh-n" but then I lived further north and later Gloucester area where it's been "sk-on". I don't care really so just go with the flow.

[–] TeaHands@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I go with skon, for I am common as muck and not ashamed of it. I won't judge you if you say skone, but I will think you're posh.

[–] Mane25@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

The thing about that is everyone believes the way they don't pronounce it is the posh way.

Where I grew up, calling it skon would get you labelled posh.

[–] Loccy@feddit.uk 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

But I am common as muck. I haven't met an H I haven't dropped and I'm proper Bermondsey and Millwall. And it's a "skone". In fact the only people who call it a "skon" in my experience in deepest darkest Saaaaaaaf Laaaaaaandaaan are posh cnuts.

Spock has a cat. Your argument is invalid.

[–] KickMeElmo@beehaw.org -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Definitely skone. Never heard anyone say skon. But I'm also on the west coast of the US, so that's likely a factor.

EDIT: Just noticed which community I was in. Oops.

[–] the_boxhead@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

I thought this was called a “biscuit” in the states? <<not wanting to cause trouble, I’ve seen biscuits & gravy look like it>>

[–] TeaHands@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

People on the west coast of the US are posh, confirmed!

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