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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/70573832

Move to Graphene, Calyx, Sailfish, Lineage, Postmarket OS, Ubuntu Touch before the Google prison door shuts.

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[-] anothermember@feddit.uk 86 points 23 hours ago

Which 4 countries?

It's not called "sideloading", by the way, it's called installing software on your own computer.

[-] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 18 points 20 hours ago

But sideloading makes it sound so ominous and even dangerous.

If you listen very carefully, you might hear me sighing deeply at the level of stupidity we all have to live in.

[-] Sunshine@piefed.ca 29 points 23 hours ago

Indonesia, Brazil, Thailand and Singapore.

[-] Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip 8 points 18 hours ago

I think the problem is that even when people agree with you there is no specific term for installing apps in the way that will be limited other than the term "sideloading"

So its kinda hard to communicate clearly without using it. But the plays into googles dichotomy between installing the way they want and installing the way they don't

[-] Scrollone@feddit.it 11 points 9 hours ago

"Google will restrict installing apps from 2027"

Sounds clear and to the point to me.

[-] schubidubiduba@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 18 hours ago

We should start calling installing an App from the PlayStore "Google-Loading" lmao

[-] Sunshine@piefed.ca 2 points 17 hours ago

Google’s enshittification continues

[-] maam@feddit.uk 37 points 1 day ago

People are gonna ignore this, then complain that “no one warned them about this” or “why didn’t you try harder warning us”

[-] ch00f@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

What percentage of Android users sideload? I would think an enthusiastic minority who are well aware of the deadline.

[-] Scrollone@feddit.it 4 points 9 hours ago

Stop using the term "sideloading", as if it was something bad.

It's just installing apps. Google will restrict installing apps and force users to only install the apps that they want you to install.

[-] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 10 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

That is the same line of argument as "I have nothing to hide, of course you can surveil me 24/7".

You never have, until you have, when things change against your way.

Besides this was the ONLY benefit of going google so far, having "freedom". And now they strip it away, step by step. 10yrs from now it's buying apple or this-other-slightly-cheaper-apple.

[-] ch00f@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

I'm not saying that sideloading isn't important (sent from LineageOS).

I'm just saying that the population of people who currently sideload and don't know about the deadline must be small.

If you're arguing that the population who will want to sideload will grow after the deadline to encompass a large plurality, that's another topic.

The pessimist in me doesn't see it happening given how many kids don't even know what a file browser does.

One can hope though.

[-] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 5 points 16 hours ago

population of people who currently sideload and don’t know about the deadline must be small

Oh yes totally. Misunderstood you there. This number is probably extremely small indeed.

If you’re arguing that the population who will want to sideload will grow after the deadline to encompass a large plurality

Sadly no. I'm with you there. Won't happen. And I'm also sure, that google's warn-notices will make sure to make it sound horribly bad like "You cannot install this app because it is not secure, the risk to your device is immeasurable, it might even shrink your penis!". Pessimism? Nah, would say realism. That's what always happen. Grab enough people with being open and great and cheap and caring, and when you secured a sizable portion of the market, cut the liberal shit out and control the thing to death. Normal enshittification of everything :-(

Hope yes, that's what rather puts us into the optimism-spectrum...But what do they say? An optimist is just someone who has not enough data :-)

[-] maam@feddit.uk 2 points 1 day ago

an enthusiastic minority who are well aware of the deadline.

That is not accurate at all, not enough people use custom roms.

[-] ch00f@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago
[-] skribe@piefed.social 9 points 19 hours ago

If only I had the luxury of owning a phone that was compatible with any of the alternative OSs.

[-] maam@feddit.uk 4 points 18 hours ago

If people stopped buying iPhones🇺🇸🤡 that would help.

[-] Sunshine@piefed.ca 22 points 1 day ago

Now is this the time for Jolla and PostmarketOS.

[-] wide_eyed_stupid@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

My Jolla will be shipped soon! Batch 1 and 2 have already gone out. I think they started on the September one.

[-] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 6 points 20 hours ago

Or whatever the fuck else beside crapple and (soon) the other crapple. I hope there more than dozens of us...

[-] aizakku@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 day ago

Been running Lineage OS for a few years on older pixel phones but decided to grab a Pixel Fold off of eBay and going to load Graphene onto it.

[-] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 16 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

I'm still not comfortable degoogling my software by googling my hardware.

[-] aizakku@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 hours ago

Yea, unfortunately all of every system requires some level of trust and I’m giving a big boy like Google a lot of trust their hardware is secure. But let’s say Google is clean, their schematics and chipsets are all vetted and stuff. There’s an additional layer at the fabrication of the hardware. Do you trust the Chinese hardware makers? If not then basically all devices are compromised. Need to trust the driver vendors, need to trust your ISP, need to trust your Os vendor, so on ad infinitum.

I’m also trusting the Graphene OS devs that they’ve done their due dilligence and ensure their hardened product is up to their marketing specs. I don’t think I possess any such knowledge to know 99% of this. I could take wireshark and profile its baseline data and make some assumptions, but what if all telemetry is just stored somewhere local and like on the leap year, the code fires it all off to homebase? I’m not likely scanning and analyzing 100% of the time so like it takes trust.

[-] gnutrino@programming.dev 10 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)
[-] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

Weird not a fairphone.

[-] Staff@piefed.world 1 points 21 hours ago

For those with apps already installed, will the apps just stop working? Or will they be uninstalled?

[-] kazerniel@piefed.world 8 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

according to Google, you can enable an "advanced mode" that lets you keep using other software: https://piefed.world/post/1386916#comment_6826604

(not sure what will happen in that 24 hours waiting period)

[-] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 3 points 19 hours ago

I keep trying to do this but keep forgetting after the 24hr I need to go back and verify. Somewhere along the lines it kills it and I have to start a new 24hr wait time

[-] Anarki_@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 9 hours ago

The system is working as intended.

[-] kazerniel@piefed.world 3 points 19 hours ago

I tried it just now, will see if it works 👀

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