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[-] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 26 minutes ago

Yes, we all know AI sucks, stop spamming Lemmy with slop.

[-] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 55 points 13 hours ago

Move over, flat-Earthers, the time has finally come for the giant Europe conspiracy theory.

[-] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

I mean, Europeans colonized the Americas, so...

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 13 hours ago

Basically, Botswana and New Zealand are the only countries NOT in Europe, and in the case of the latter it's because it doesn't actually exist.

[-] marcos@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago

They always insist Old Zealand was replaced in the 19th Century; don't believe it people!

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Nah, Old Zealand is still over there

points east to other part of Denmark

[-] nightlily@leminal.space 6 points 10 hours ago

It’s actually the Dutch province of Zeeland which is notable for being otherwise completely unnotable.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 hours ago

It’s actually the Dutch province of Zeeland

Nope. Zee ≠ Zea

which is notable for being otherwise completely unnotable.

Lots of islands like that in Denmark 😄

[-] frank@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

No he's right, it's named after the Dutch province. Coincidence that Sjælland is written Zealand

[-] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 7 points 12 hours ago
[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 12 hours ago

I prefer Original Recipe Zealand myself

[-] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 4 points 11 hours ago

That would be in the Netherlands.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 hours ago

You're thinking of Zeeland. Zealand is in Denmark

[-] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 1 points 51 minutes ago

The Zealand referred to in New Zealand is in fact Zeeland, they just changed the spelling.

[-] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago

We're going to get on so many podcasts.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 13 hours ago

We're gonna be hundredaires! 🥳

[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 4 points 12 hours ago

Middle Zealanders rise up!

[-] ZeroGravitas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 11 hours ago
[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 hours ago

Personally, I prefer Crusader Kings

[-] molten@lemmy.world 17 points 12 hours ago

If you're using the LLM generated results you need to stop. They're going away or becoming subscription services soon anyway and all we're doing now is harm.

Disclaimer: I am also guilty of this and trying to cut it out slowly.

[-] Helios_Huxley@lemmy.world 1 points 31 minutes ago

No there will be always free tier of LLM's. For data collection, advertising, improving model output etc. Maybe they will reduce the free quata but i don't think they completly remove it. Ohh sorry you are talking about search engine's LLM results. Okey they may go.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 11 hours ago

If you're using the LLM generated results you need to stop

Don't worry, I'm not. I just keep forgetting to put in the noai part of the address

[-] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

You can also change your settings to remove ai and it should remember them for the device.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago

I didn't know that, thanks!

[-] JandalsAweigh 7 points 12 hours ago

Why are you using any AI for search results? Just turn it off and use DDG as a normal search engine. Problem solved.

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[-] abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone 5 points 13 hours ago

Well, in my experience, at least is still better than Gemini.

I can't believe that Google of all companies in the AI space have created the most dog shit AI.

[-] ryannathans@aussie.zone 1 points 8 hours ago

Gemini or the garbage they put in the search engine?

[-] abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 7 hours ago

Both.

The reason why Google's search quality has gone downhill so quickly it's because, rather than your search query being put though it's search engine, it's being put through Gemini to make their AI numbers look better to investors.

All of this is made worse by the fact that Gemini, itself, isn't very good as chat bots go, at least compared to it's competitors.

[-] real_squids@sopuli.xyz 3 points 12 hours ago

the most dog shit AI.

For you. I bet it's useful for their cash flow, not accounting the dev cost.

[-] abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 12 hours ago

The fact that every single search query is fed through Gemini has made Google worse than its competitors, ergo, Dog shit.

[-] real_squids@sopuli.xyz 2 points 12 hours ago

Yeah but since they have a shitload of users already they can push whatever they want thru gemini and face zero repercussions

[-] Fishy@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Wish they’d just scrap it. Makes me want to migrate to qwant (despite disliking their lack of bang syntax). Or more accurately, I’m trying to migrate to qwant because of it, but I’ve still not converted completely.

[-] boletus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

Startpage clearly separates their non ai and ai search engine

[-] leftascenter@jlai.lu 6 points 13 hours ago
[-] Fishy@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago

Thanks. But they enshitified their main product enough that an opt out is worse than going to up and coming European alternatives. The future lies there for me.

[-] SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago

Their normal search is now near useless as well.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 13 hours ago

Nah, that's Google you're thinking of.

DDG isn't GOOD, but it's almost always good enough to eventually find what I need. Unlike Google, which is just ads and other useless results now.

[-] beegnyoshi@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 hours ago

Mmm I'm sorry but I'm going to have to disagree. Google's results are still better than ddg, which sources them from bing. In my experience, it is even more susceptible to SEO spam than google, even though both are pretty bad.

To me, search engines with interesting results are more stuff like marginalia and mojeek, but those are niche and not really for most people. They also have a tendency to give results that have nothing to do with the query, which is sad :(

[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 3 points 12 hours ago

I'm pretty sure this is because Bing is the index source for general searching: https://duckduckgo.com/duckduckgo-help-pages/results/sources

[-] yesman@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

To be fair, Canada is looking to "join" the EU, Turkey is already a member. What is Europe anyway?

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 13 hours ago

And both Australia and the West's favorite fascist apartheid state participate in the Eurovision Song Contest (Becau$e).

What is Europe anyway?

A Swedish band from the 80s, their big hit was The Final Countdown

[-] mustbe3to20signs@feddit.org 6 points 12 hours ago

Turkey is not an EU member and stands no chance until they get rid of Erdogan.

[-] fonix232@fedia.io 1 points 13 hours ago

So where are all the haters who moved over to the Quack search engine because Google was forcing AI on them, now?

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Still not using Google, which is still much closer to COMPLETELY useless than it is to being good.

[-] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 8 points 13 hours ago

Probably hanging out at noai.duckduckgo.com?

[-] loaf@sh.itjust.works 7 points 13 hours ago

I just disabled the AI on DDG and use it as a search engine. I don’t trust any AI to give me an accurate response.

[-] real_squids@sopuli.xyz 3 points 12 hours ago

I never liked it, and google tricks have been broken for a while. My browser came with startpage by default, seems alright for now. Thankfully I don't need a search engine that often

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