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submitted 2 days ago by TheMcG@lemmy.ca to c/toronto@lemmy.ca

Reviewing the leaked Flock camera map, I see there are planned cameras at the home Depot's in the city. There are also 4 active devices; two near Rosedale, and a couple active in Audi midtown Dealership.

you can see the details here: https://flocksurveillance.org/index.html ( you must VPN into the USA to view the site).

Seems like unacceptable behaviour from a corporation. Anyone know if they are still planned? as you can see the map shows them as planned as of a year ago.

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[-] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago

I'm surprised they think an American company can afford the bad PR in Canada right now.

[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

The only time I have set foot in a Home Despot since Trump got elected was to use their toilet.

It does suck, though, that they are the only place to buy Ryobi tools. My batteries are getting close to end of life, and I'd rather not have to replace my tools to move to a different battery ecosystem.

[-] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

They're available online through multiple sources too. Some are probably a bit sketchy though.

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Ryobi batteries from third parties are larger capacity, less than half the price, have a gauge built in and last longer. OEM Ryobi batteries suck.

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

They have a monopoly. Lowes is gone, and RONA is expensive and poorly stocked, but also US owned.

[-] box@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Rona is Canadian owned once again, since 2023. headquarters is now in Boucherville, Que.

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 days ago

They can't afford the thefts in Canada right now. I know some who works at Home Depot and people walk out with $500 tools every day. Given TPS don't actually work any more, and even if someone is caught, the fine is trivial and just encourages more theft. It's not sustainable.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago

even if someone is caught, the fine is trivial

So this serves no purpose then.

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago

Exactly, the fine is up to $5000 but by the time someone is caught, they could have stolen 10x that number. Crime pays. No one goes to jail for theft in Ontario. They need lot cameras to see how they are driving away. I did some work in my house over the summer and went to HD often, I saw three thefts. People load up a trolley with tools and just walk right out, no one will try and stop them.

Similar issue with stolen motorcycles in GTA- the same guys just get charged over and over.

The solution is either: pre-pay tools and pickup only, or hire security guards.

[-] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

I mean fair enough, but a flock camera isn't really going to help with that. At best it will list off every care in the parking lot at the time, and might be able to check repeat offenders. Caging inventory would be a better bet, but most likely there are staff helping with the theft.

[-] nik282000@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 days ago

If only there were a business near by that sold cordless sawzalls and grinders.

[-] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

I'm pissed, I will be calling and emailing to have these removed

[-] radish6367@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago
[-] Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

explains the camera on a giant pole attached to the massive solor panel in the fencing I saw... bright blinking blue light, very visible at night.

[-] krolden@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 days ago
[-] Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

sure it does... it's a newly deployed camera in the middle of the parking lot. no reason for a normal camera since they already have like 6 on the building facing the lot.

this is clearly getting something that their normal cameras don't... and it has its own dedicated power system. why...

maga loving home Depot would certainly deploy this shit anywhere they can.

how does it not explain

also, never trust a company to be honest and true.. they will, especially home Depot and the fascist loving ceo will do this crap without care for anything or anyone.

[-] krolden@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Those are pop up surveillance things put there by local srcuty companies. They may have alpr abilities but they're not flock

Flock cameras have no lights

[-] krolden@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 days ago

Ok but this is private property they can put up whatever cameras they want.

Flock cameras are bad because municipalities pay them to put them on PUBLIC roads.

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

You're right that being flock doesn't matter. They would likely have cameras in their store no matter what.

One issue with flock is that the data is stored off site and can be theoretically accessed by people outside of the relevant security team.

Video recording of all kinds should be banned in all public facing commercial institutions. While there could be arguments made for people just using stores that don't have them in practice that option doesn't always exist.

[-] krolden@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

No store is storing their camera footage onsite unless it's less than ten cameras or it's high security. It's all cloud services.

If you wanna ban private surveillance on private property you're gonna have to change the constitution

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Security of person is what allows it to be banned in public facing parts of private property. Not the other way around. They could still keep it in the employee sections and warehouses

[-] krolden@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Maybe in Europe but that's never gonna happen in USA and it's probably for the best. I don't want to have to blur large portions of the feed outside my house

Edit:just realized this is a Canadian Lemmy instance and that's a law in Canada

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