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How would militaries and governments react ??

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[-] Pomal@sh.itjust.works 29 points 2 days ago
[-] Bougie_Birdie@piefed.blahaj.zone 16 points 2 days ago

Truly

You'll have people loudly telling everyone who will listen that zombies are a hoax even while one is eating their liver

[-] meco03211@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

"But that's clearly just one of the vaccinated people gnawing on my entrails."

[-] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 days ago

Zombies are obviously just crisis actors.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago

mitch mcconnel would rule over them as thier lich king.

[-] quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 days ago

I thought the book was pretty much spot on, lots of chaos and ineptitude at the beginning and after a bit of natural selection the survivors got their shit together.

[-] meco03211@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Battle of Yonkers is only unrealistic due to not using nukes. I absolutely believe this admin wouldn't blink at the thought of dropping a nuke on our own soil.

[-] Nokia64@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Agreed , great book

[-] Kolanaki@pawb.social 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

In the book, they solved the problem in like, a month. It's pretty funny.

In reality, you'd have too many morons denying the fact zombies are literally chewing their arm off, so it would take longer even tho we would have several viable solutions ready to go.

[-] Earthwormjim91@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

What the fuck are you talking about? It took years to get under control. The entire book is set twenty years after the outbreak began, and there’s still tens of millions of zombies around, just pushed back out of inhabited areas and kept away as they slowly decompose. Pakistan and Iran nuked each other into oblivion. The entire global society basically broke down when it was released that Phalanx (the vaccine being hawked) was a scam. Billions of people died.

It was four years after the outbreak started that the US built up to go on the offensive, another three years before they liberated the contiguous US, and another two years after that that it was declared victory globally. Seven years after the outbreak began.

[-] KC_Royalz@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It's been awhile since I've read the book but weren't the zombies in that walkers and not runners?

I just don't see how walkers would be a threat in the real world, runners might be able to spread more easily but I think even then they would be quickly contained .

If I remember the book they said Nebraska was a zombie land due to cities evacuating and I80 being congested.

Living in Nebraska we have tons of heavy machinery and farming implements. Can easily hook up a disk to a tractor and plow them into the ground

[-] meco03211@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

I just don't see how walkers would be a threat in the real world,

Numbers. Couple that with the conspiracy theory nuts that would deny they exist and actively assist the spread. Battle of Yonkers was a pretty good example of how a military response could fail. Most people have no concept of how difficult a head shot is nor the energy required and also difficulty in melee attacking a human head.

[-] KC_Royalz@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Ya I get that but as someone who has seen heavy machinery accidents the machine wins always and it's not even close. Even a 68 ton Abrams tank would do more damage to masses by just plowing over them than weaponry. Sure you'll get some ankle biter bobs in the weeds but the majority you just rendered immobile .

Now throw some 50ft wide discs and you just have a bunch of grinding saws

[-] sunsofold@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago

50 ft wide tractor implements and tank treads are great in a blank, open environment, but your 50ft discer is not making it into the city, where the highest concentrations of people, and thus Zeke, will be. How do you clear a building with a vehicle? Ram it with the tank? Now you have maybe killed anyone inside who wasn't dead, and made a pile of difficult to traverse rubble out of a difficult to produce, possibly useful building, and no idea if there is anything inside waiting to infect anyone who starts trying to do the work of clearing it for human use, whether actively in the form of trapped zeds who can wait for ages or passively in the form of juices coating a sharp piece of rubble or biohazard remains getting into a cut. The danger with slow undead isn't in the open with the full light of the sun to reveal them. It's how they can surprise you, reanimating in a closet you have to clear with no space to backpedal, wandering off into the woods only to wander back once you think the area is clear, the scared people who are hoping it's just a regular infection and not wanting to be kicked out of camp so they turn in the night and suddenly they're inside the perimeter, next to where people are sleeping, the one that turned after crawling into a water tank to hide, and now that seemingly normal water people used to fill their canteens because they haven't seen clean water since the outbreak shut down the water company is turning a dozen people, seemingly at random. Small outbreaks can be handled. Once it reaches a certain size, though, things break in weird ways.

[-] meco03211@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

This. And though the book didn't get into it, the tank might be able to move but it could be completely surrounded. Zeke would swarm like slow ants on a carcass. What does the tank do when there are a hundred of them clinging and climbing on the tank? The Battle of Hope lasted almost a full day. That was a planned and coordinated fight that had tens of thousands of zombies. How long could a swarmed tank last with no visibility due to carrying a swarm? How close is support when that many zombies are around? You can't just go shooting them off or you might hurt the tank.

[-] meathorse@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

And diesel ain't gonna last forever. Pull up at the pump, tank crawling with Z... "Ok Junior, jump out and pump the gas would ya, grab yourself a coffee while you wait!"

[-] sunsofold@lemmy.zip 2 points 15 hours ago

"On it, Sarge!" *opens door*

[-] Zonetrooper@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

I mean, the Zombies in WWZ basically run on magic shields to be a threat. They're utterly invulnerable to anything Max Brooks doesn't want them to be killed by.

Like, if I remember correctly, they're immune to shrapnel and bleeding wounds because "the dead don't need blood", and nerve toxins or shockwaves don't harm them because "the dead don't have a nervous system". But somehow removing the head is a 100% infallible method of killing them. What is in the head if not blood and nerves, Max?

These are creatures which casually violate the second law of thermodynamics. If they're playing by real-world physics, chemistry, and biology, they're radically less dangerous.

[-] meathorse@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

His prior book The Zombie Survival Guide goes into a lot of detail about the how and why of Zombie biology and durability

[-] Zonetrooper@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I'm aware of it. It suffers from the same issues as WWZ. Max Brooks makes a lot of assertions, some of which are factually wrong (about topics other than zombies, I mean), some of which require the zombies to share the same oddly specific immunities to be true, and some of which is even self-contradictory. (Offhand, the bit that sticks in my mind is he completely contradicts himself about whether zombies can even climb things.)

[-] Nokia64@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

lol basically everything shield

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