See, the thing is if you take a kids phone away you need to do something else with them to replace that time and habit.
Exactly.
The phone is part of the cause, and removing it is only part of the solution.
Drugs and alcohol enters the chat
It's not as good as therapy, but it's a start.
Sure, because depression and trauma clearly must be due to the smartphone. It's not like the smartphone might be the escape route and you're now locking the child in to whatever caused the trauma (most likely either school, domestic violence or loss / isolation).
Not saying it can't possibly be cyber-bullying or the s̶o̶c̶i̶a̶l̶ ̶a̶l̶g̶o̶r̶i̶t̶h̶m̶ manipulation engine, but just blindly taking away the things your child is escaping into the most is a shortcut to either an estranged or dead one.
So the if the Phone is an escape and escapes are a-okay, when are we arguing in favor of drugs for children?
Shouldnt it be both: limiting or prohibiting escapes for children and therapy?
Otherwise you are adding a damaging coping mechanism to untreated trauma.
Edit
The Argument that the Smartphone causing Depression is wrong. Sometimes. But most things on the Smartphone are essentially malevolent in some way.
Wow, equating a child's coping mechanism and trauma escapes with giving them drugs is a low that's genuinely impressive. And infuriating.
I never said anything against therapy, that's of course essential. So is making sure there is no immediately harmful stuff around them (which entertainment, games and social interactions via internet that are used to cope are NOT fucking part of). But taking away their coping mechanism is literally the worst thing you can do and will only inflict even more damage.
I went through this fucking shit two decades ago (but with 2000's computer & internet) and I'll die on this hill. Implying that a phone is inherently damaging is regurgitated boomer bullshit, and taking it away if it's their coping mechanism / outlet completely from a traumatized child will lead to either estrangement later or suicide earlier.
State: best we can do is lock you up and tell you you're incurable
Well, yes. That's a solution
A class of human population without voting rights is a class that's always subservient to the one that does.
They're used to.trial run human rights abuses, like microphones hidden in smoke detectors in bathrooms (real btw)
I don't understand...
I mean, if I had kids they sure as hell wouldnt have any google or apple device and no access to anything Meta. A 15 year old laptop with Linux (commodore OS would be pretty sick as a kid, I'd have LOVED it) with either none or very limited internet access. No Tok, no fb, no insta.
Or, some books. Do kids read anymore?
I know, I'd be the greatest parent of all time, but thats not gonna happen 🙃
Note on the book : You have to let THEM chose what to read based on the genre and plot.
Otherwise it's equivalent to someone else making you watch stereotypical tiktok stuff.
Personal tastes differ.
Sounds reasonable except that kids will notice the technology around them and start questioning you and using the technology in your back; so you have to teach them with lower doses...
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