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"You said you needed it compatible with Teams."
Oh yeah? But is their customer service also an essential blend of AI and dog shit?
Checkmate, europoors.
*europeons was so close and yet you missed the mark.
I'm not sure how to feel about someone thinking I coined that term...
Wasn't thinking that, I just think Europeons is the far superior pun. Speaking as a Europeon, of course.
It's far superior, but it may need a hyphen. Otherwise most USians won't recognise the pun and will just think that's how Euro-peons spell it. Which is only hilarious until the new spelling is an official US variant.
US? Do you mean Magastan? The banana republic between Mexico and Canada?
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Okay, hear me out: what if you click on a contact in your contact list and start typing a message, but instead of writing in the message field, it instead focused a random contact in your contract list whose name starts with the last letter you typed. Anyone? People love this feature, right?
I'm not too convinced FLOSS devs are mentally flexible enough to implement all of the glory of MS Teams.
I love the feature where I paste something into an email, and then it stops me typing by popping up a useless menu.
My second favourite is the one where you're typing, and suddenly it starts treating all your keypresses as shortcuts and deleting things. I love that.
And don't even get me started on Outlook search. I can no longer find any emails, even by typing in the things that were on them.
But hey, at least an admin can fuck it all up from one place!
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My favorite feature is when there is a message in a chat you are already looking at and you have to click out of it and back in before the notification will go away
You're underselling it! Sure, what you discribe would be a nice feature, but what makes it truly great is the combination with a slow and unresponsive UI. It's thought provoking genius!
Did it register the click or do I have to try again? Maybe I should meditate to fully harvest the value of this 0.5s Zen moment, because it also might just take much longer this time? Does a tree fall, when there is no one to witness it? Does a click matter if it is inside Teams?
I thought that was just me! My second favorite feature is that a full 75% of my notifications in a day are Facilitator bot messages, which I need to repeatedly click out of and into to clear.
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How about the feature where you get a notification that someone said something in a group chat but if you click on the notification it opens the private chat with that person instead?
Or the one where you enable recording a meeting and only after the meeting does it tell you that it couldn't actually save anything to OneDrive so there's no recording? That's some advanced UX engineering right there.
Or the one where it hides less used "applications" and decides that the only ones it should hide are the chat and the calendar. Not everyone can come up with that.
Or how it shows a banner telling you to update even if your client is company-managed and especially if you're using their web client.
FLOSS can't hope to compete at that level.
What about freezing and locking the whole system ~45 minutes in a meeting every time? Or hear me out, lets display the content of the window in the centered rectangle that takes 15-20% of window and it can be resized down but not up?
For me: When using the teams app on my work laptop, something prevents the clock multiplier in my processor from working correctly - it's locked to 600-800MHz (according to the performance tab in the Taskmanager) and everything is very sluggish. As soon as I exit the meeting, it will jump back up to several GHz as it should...
My favourite: It says you have an unread message. It won't tell you where. You need to go hunting for it.
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meh, as I understand the alt is an open source project so it maybe terrible but it's a terrible that can be pressured to fix
More likely an amalgamation of several open source projects glued together with a bunch of proprietary stuff for Cisco hardware, desk phones, some weird PBX system and so on...
So they're replicating Teams even more closely than we suspected?
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Hard to imagine it being worse than teams.
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I'm really not sure if absolute shit is a notch above or below Teams.
Teams is negative.
Shit is negative.
Absolute shit is positive.
Therefore absolute shit > teams.
Qed.
Absolute shit is positive.
THE absolute shit would be positive. Absolute shit is negative. Absolutely.
Absolute value, including of a negative number, is always positive.
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Hey kids, try this neat trick:
during a Teams meeting, mention a very esoteric product 2-3X .
Within a week, someone will email you an offer to buy that product.
Unfortunately, LinkedIn patched that infinite money glitch in the latest Business Douchecanoe firmware update.
Which project is it?
element. based on matrix
Bruh I use that on the daily, and it works great.
It's hard to get people to move from what they know and use to something else. If you moved them to Google, they'd say it's shit. Same for Zoom. They all do some stuff better than others.
Element is perfectly servicable. They're using Element Pro which is billing itself as built for government. The first problem is they called it pro, which sets expectations higher than they should be. It's not going to make them go WOW this is so much better at first glance.
Trying to onboard a gigantic number of people is going to be difficult for a system that doesn't already have a gigantic number of people on it. I can only imagine how rough the system is at the moment, but it'll work out.
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Ehhhh... There's so many issues with it. It is equivalent to if Microsoft Teams was a Matrix application. The problem is that the UI is so clunky, buggy, and in general not robust enough compared to other matrix applications. Other matrix applications just don't have things implemented and also feel the need to copy Element's terrible designs.
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I found element quite alright compared to teams, honestly. I wish the EU actually invested money in matrix to make it better instead of just using the base and building a bunch of stuff on top of it.
Most accurate description of Element I've ever heard to be honest. It's literally just Discord, with all of it's bloat, but with a protocol that wants to have "security" bolted on. And all of the security related dialogs have race conditions in them. Actually, not just in Element, all clients, even nheko and fluffychat, has race conditions in the fucking security dialogs. All of my devices are just unverified now, I just gave up.
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The Commission introduced Element Pro
Ufff. Matrix/Element is rough. I tried moving my friends there and everyone bailed on me.
Self-host Fluxer instead, EU!
Matrix is fine with an alternative client. I use Commet, and it'd pretty much serve as a total replacement for Discord for me if not for the fact that nearly none of the communities I'm in are bridged there.
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I believe the correct term is “shite”, to be spoken with a thick accent lol
Honestly I don't know why the majority don't just use something like teamspeak. I still use 3 point something version and it still works. Do I really need to see you on my screen? Like does that add anything or are we pretending to be futuristic?
I spend half my day in meetings with colleagues, partners and clients and it adds a lot.
If the other person is speaking in a language where you are not native / fluent, seeing their mouth helps. I'm experimenting with AI-based live transcription (eww, AI, slop, I get it) but it only works real time with English at the moment.
If you are explaining something you can see if they are following, if they are skeptical about certain claims, etc. Many cultures are very conflict-averse and won't challenge you directly, or even ask for clarification.
And for me personally it helps me remember the person much better, and remember what we talked about last time when I see the face again.
I'd argue that is the opposite of futuristic, it helps our primitive brains work as they are used to.
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Honestly surprised they didn't go with NextCloud Talk.
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