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[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 64 points 5 days ago

Norway 98%

Others: EVs dont work in the cold.

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[-] don_kiedyck@lemmy.world 27 points 5 days ago

It’s always this same group of countries doing awesome shit.

I need to move.

[-] frank@sopuli.xyz 18 points 5 days ago

As someone who moved to one of them years ago from the US, it's fucking sick: 10/10 recommend.

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[-] jdr@lemmy.ml 19 points 5 days ago

But where did you get that money Norway? Hmmm?

[-] Nurgus@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Invested their oil wealth in a massive highly diverse sovereign wealth fund generations ago.

Nothing was stopping other countries from doing the same thing. But state investment is "ARGFFHG SOCIALISM BZZZZTT WANT TO BE LIKE VENEZUELA??" so we didn't.

[-] jdr@lemmy.ml 18 points 5 days ago

Nothing was stopping other countries from doing the same thing.

Except for having large quantities of oil, conveniently discovered after the country was stable and industrialized.

[-] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 days ago

The US also has lots of oil

[-] jdr@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 days ago

That is totally correct

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[-] razen@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

Man being born in one of these countries currently is just a luxury, especially Denmark and Norway

[-] MBech@feddit.dk 8 points 5 days ago

I gotta say, for all the dumb shit we're dealing with, it's pretty terrific in Denmark.

[-] varnia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 5 days ago

Germany: 34.5% because the government and the people are stuck in last century. It is ridiculous and incomprehensible.

[-] wewbull@feddit.uk 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Also because the car companies there denied that electric vehicles were going to happen for eons. I'm not even sure some of them have accepted it even now.

[-] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 14 points 5 days ago

What about just not buying cars? The most environmentally freindly countries are apparently does that just cant afford the western way of life. Why cant we have walfare, social security, etc while having good urbanism and low car usage?

[-] mirshafie@europe.pub 5 points 5 days ago

Sweden and Norway have quite low population densities, and Norway especially is very difficult in terms of building infrastructure. Fjords and mountains are beautiful, but they're a nightmare to build any kind of infrastructure for. So it will be a lot of dirt roads, sharp turns et.c. and not suitable for rail.

That being said, urban centers should likely be almost entirely car-free.

[-] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 9 points 5 days ago

Yeah but like 60% of the population is in large urban centers and theyre already connected in norway by huge road tunnels and bridges, they could have trains as well. As for sweden, the government just doesnt spend money on public transit and when it does they throw it away on random stuff. Many tracks are in disrepair, out of use and the main high speed lines are constructed in stupid places. There are like 2 population corridors that make up 50% of swedens total population, thats three good highspeed lines to connect them but even that isnt achieved in a reliable way. As for transport within cities, apart from gothenburg and stockholm its pretty bad as well.

[-] the_strange@feddit.org 5 points 5 days ago

It's not better in Norway. There's always something wrong with the trains. There's been abysmal punctuality or cancellation numbers that would make even German train operators blush. They're on partial strike at the moment and although there are many cancellations I hardly notice any difference between a planned disruption by strike and an unplanned disruption by mismanagement.
And biking in urban centers is near suicide. The Norwegian Cyclists' Association recently published their biannual questionnaire results and only 18% think that cycling is "generally save across all age and experience groups".

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[-] VibeSurgeon@piefed.social 11 points 5 days ago

It's only 49% in Sweden because of the braindead right wing government we've had for the past 4 years.

They lost the election though so maybe we can still right the ship

[-] yessikg@fedia.io 13 points 5 days ago

Extremely loud buzzer Incorrect! Nepal is at 73% and Ethiopia banned new ICE sales

[-] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Some developing countries with low levels of car ownership are not covered by the IEA data but have reportedly seen impressive EV uptake in the last few years.

For example, countries like Ethiopia, Nepal and Sri Lanka went from essentially no EV imports five years ago to the majority of their imports being EVs in 2024.

Nepal and Ethopia are generally excluded from these lists due to the small numbers issue that skews their results - 65% of the cars sold in Nepal in 2025 were EVs, but there were only 20,000 cars sold there total (and the data available is unreliable)

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[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

I read somewhere that almost 50% of all car sales are electric now. Not that electric cars are some panacea, but I for one think ICE should go the way of the dinosaur.

[-] jaykrown@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

The combustion engine will remain longer for a lot of heavier diesel vehicles I think, but as for most gasoline cars, EVs should take over rapidly.

[-] dillekant@slrpnk.net 9 points 5 days ago

The comments here are great pushing against this, the other thing I'll add is that this is a capex vs opex thing. Operating an EV is way cheaper but purchasing one is more expensive. Additionally rich countries are often more demanding than poorer ones because the opex cost is "real" in poorer countries. Governments can essentially solving this by underwrite this cost, create nice loans, cashbacks, tax backs, etc etc.

One example I give is that in India, you have electric bikes and scooters which are quite attractive because of the running costs, but they have low range and low power. Indians are just practical with how much money they have so they'll make the tradeoffs. In richer countries, they don't even sell the equivalent bikes or scooters because someone in those countries just turns their nose up at the power or range.

[-] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Operating an EV is way cheaper but purchasing one is more expensive

That's not true, Australia has a small BYD Atto 1 for $A20k ($14kUSD) and that's with taxes, there are no ICE vehicles for that price.

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[-] Fallibilist@feddit.uk 7 points 5 days ago

I'm not sure "wealthy" is the correct term here. There's quite a wealth gap between Norway and Finland for example. Finland's economy haven't been good for a decade and we have one of the highest unemployment rates in Europe.

[-] bassad@jlai.lu 1 points 3 days ago

What is the initial cost of an EV compared to ICE in these countries, including tax credit?

To see how is it helped by governments.

To give an exemple here a peugeot 308 is from 33k (with 7k bonus) and 30k ICE (France)

[-] HerbGrower@slrpnk.net 5 points 5 days ago

But what about electric trains and buses?

[-] rethnor@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 days ago

Trains are og electric vehicles. Those giant diesels are just generators. Replacing them with a battery would be interesting, just how big of a battery would a train need?

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[-] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 6 points 5 days ago

We are really seeing how some countries are transforming into electrostates now. Honestly it is more good governing and is also happening in poorer countries. The long term impacts will be massive though, as cars are a huge oil consumer and being less dependent on it, makes you less dependent on a bunch of really shitty countries(US, Iran, Russia, the Gulf States and so on)

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