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Andy Burnham has said Russia did interfere with the Brexit referendum and warned that similar activities were taking place in France and Germany.

The prime minister told The Rest is Politics podcast that upon arriving in No 10, he had asked about possible Russian interference in the 2016 vote, adding: "I've had the clear answer that, yes, there was."

"I think we've been too much on the back foot on that actually and we haven't informed people sufficiently about the extent to which people are seeking to disrupt the political process from overseas," he added.

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[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

Same guy that says that those guys out on bail for stealing fuel were for sure Iranian terrorists.

[-] whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 5 hours ago

"Burnham did not provide further details about the type or extent of Moscow's activity during the Brexit referendum."

is the government/corpo complicit media equivalent of 'trust me bro'

[-] likebudda@reddthat.com 29 points 1 day ago

Everybody thought the wall coming down was the end but Russia has had a hell of a comeback with their Brexit-Trump 1-2 punch to Democracy. They might've overreached in Ukraine but even our best efforts haven't stopped Donald from helping Russia.

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 6 points 4 hours ago

Our best efforts have been pretty shit to be honest.

[-] likebudda@reddthat.com 7 points 3 hours ago

I've tried nothing and I'm all out of ideas.

[-] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 points 3 hours ago

I mean we elected an entire other administration between his first term and this one and still nothing was done about him.

[-] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago

No shit...

It was obvious while it was happening. At the same time the US was electing Trump and a far right nationalist was gaining popularity in France. You weren't connecting the dots?

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago

At the same time, Canada, of all places, had a hard right showing.

We know Russia was in on in, and doing dirty work, but were they the Origin? Is this a multi-national cabal? Is this Oligarch central?

[-] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

I genuinely think that Europe didn't have US capitulation on their bingo card.

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[-] abc@suppo.fi 14 points 1 day ago

That's the first thing I've heard Andy Burnham say and I'm liking the guy.

Second reason: the Triggonometry guys seem to be triggered by him, so there's another reason I guess.

[-] lama@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Trigonometry guys?

Oh wait just googled. Now I get what you mean

[-] abc@suppo.fi 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

The triggerboys.

The trig bros.

Triggerbores.

Trigger twits.

[-] Denfa@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

First time?

[-] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

There are only so many times you can say no shit sherlock.

[-] rmuk@feddit.uk 1 points 15 hours ago

True, but he's the first PM to actually say it out loud. Starmer, Sunack, Truss, Johnson, May and possibly Cameron all either knew and didn't think it was important enough to mention, or were satisfied enough with the outcome that they didn't want anyone questioning it.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 day ago

Curious how he's forgot all about Cambridge Analitica which was paid with American money ...

Not to mention the very local, very British (mainly English, even) assholes that pushed for Leave as well as the (British and American) billionaires whose newspapers in Britain pushed for it.

Don't get me wrong: I'm pretty sure Russia did try. China too. And then of course there's Israel.

It's just that in my experience living in Britain (including during, before and after the Leave Referendum) if you're really looking for foreigners to blame it's America which seems to interfere the most in British politics, by far, though even they don't have the level of influence that the local "elites" have.

So it's funny seeing Andy whitewashing the likes of Murdoch and the Rothermere family, most of the Tory party, as well as American money and Israel-funded Tory-aligned British Jewish Associations (though the latter were much more visible after Brexit during the attempt at moving the Labour Party back to it's Leftwing roots with Corbyn).

[-] BilSabab@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

it's all useful idiots. Brexit used to be a marginal thing and then it wasn't and the way it stopped being marginal is questionable. you don't really need real assets to do much when you can just give a little nudge to some useful idiots and make their yapping louder and then you just keep the volume until you get the desired result. russians do it all the time.

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[-] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 78 points 2 days ago

Politicians being so out of touch with international politics that they're not aware of outside interests in destroying the EU... That they'll do a Brexit without expecting international interference. That's the ridiculous thing.

That Britain went ahead and did it, is the ridiculous thing.

What's more elections these days are becoming questionable and will only become more questionable with the prevalance of AI culture bots.

Look at it this way: States that don't have democracy are common in the world today. States that don't have democracy tend to be rightwing and authoritarian.

It should be assumed that outside interference will then be rightwing and authoritarian in nature... And we're seeing that trend play out globally now. Gee I wonder why!

[-] sepi@piefed.social 34 points 2 days ago

You think buck tooth farage didn't know he was doing precisely this?

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[-] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

Then show us the iron-clad evidence and cancel the results of the referendum.

[-] KindnessIsPunk@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 day ago

In before .ml users tell them it's in their head and to stop believing imperialist lies

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[-] absquatulate@lemmy.world 42 points 2 days ago

No mention of Cambridge Analytica? I mean, I'm sure the russians put in a coin or two because the breakup was very much in their interest, but I've yet to see clear public proof of it other than various politicians claiming 'it's clear'.

Meanwhile there's actual proof CA influenced elections and are probably working with the christo-fascists whose open goal is to break up the EU, so to me, in retrospect, it looks like maga and the US are the bigger fish here.

Cambridge Analytica had a number of ties to Russia. And using some sort of intermediary is kind of common Russian practice, in terms of how they handle foreign influence ops.

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[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 16 points 1 day ago

TIL the UK has a new PM. I just read a little about him and he seems worlds better than starmer.

Any Brits who would like to chime in? I always like hearing local perspectives

[-] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago

If you were to take Burnham's pulse, he'd have one. I'm not sure about Starmer in that regard.

There has been a significant presentational change, plenty of symbolic gestures with little practical impact (for example, sanctioning Israeli settlers but still selling weapons to Israel to kill Palestinian civilians) and Burnham has had the good sense to dump some unworkable Starmer policies, but overall, there is still significant continuity with Labour under Starmer. So I'd say it's too soon to tell if Burham's going to deliver anything more than Starmer did (which was almost nothing). I sincerely hope he does, but I'm not optimistic.

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