That sounds like a pretty good deal to me...
€115B for what ? Software to maintain cloud infrastructure is opensource, and lots of people who work on it are from Europe so if they can ditch US and join EU companies those fuckers will be in big trouble.
Still cheaper than relying on US technology. Furthermore, the tech giants sided with Krasnov and the EU is telling them to get fucked. Kudos to the EU.
Sounds like short term pain to ensure long term sovereignty
1995 Corolla was kick ass automobile. We had the wagon version in Europe too. Shame Toyota's G6 and GR6 were rather weak when you look at the current GR Yaris.
This seems to echo Trump's hissy fit over NATO countries not paying their share of military expenses when what he really meant is that they aren't funnelling more money to the US military complex and daring to spend within their own borders.
That's what it'll cost the tech giants.
In cases where I've worked on projects to transition to open source, they've all ended up saving money: capex goes close to zero, and opex starts out higher due to learning curve, but then drops below the old baseline in a few months.
And not ditching them would cost them €511B
Cost who?
Cool, an €115 billion injection into the European economy and jobs which we would have wasted offshore for no benefit, let's do it!
The European tech giants are starting the US brain drain.
That's it. It's not thrown away it's coming home. Software coming home
I thought America didn't need anybody else? According to the clown in charge.
Linux is free bitch
Translation: US Tech giants discovered their hostile actions cost them their customers.
is all this deserves in response.
Totally worth it and we’ll recoup a large chunk since the money will be going to companies that pay their taxes. Not doing this isn’t even an option anymore.
And staying with the USA might cost 100 billion per year in overpriced fossil fuels contacts and cleaning up USA's military adventures.
Even if it where true: That is money well spend. 115 billion over 10 years is not that much for 27 countries combined anyway.
Afaik the EU27 public expenditure for 2025 alone was 9.32 trillion[1]. So we are talking about ~11 billion a year vs 9.32 trillion which is ~0.1% of public expenditure of the EU27. I think if we want we can handle that.
[1] https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/databrowser/view/GOV_10A_MAIN/default/table?lang=en
Edit:
Am I right in thinking that the study does recognize a spending shift towards the EU but doesn't treat that shift as an offset against the 115 billion?
Don't forget all the new local companies and jobs that will pop up to keep their systems online.
They really don't grasp that the point of money is to use it to do things. Things that benefit, not just you, but your family, your community, your nation and humanity in general. They really think just sitting on giant piles of cash like a nesting bird is what it's there for.
I swear the richer you get the dumber it makes you. Like I honestly believe there's a point at which you get rich enough that the "Skills Atrophy" you see with people who get hooked on AI actively starts breaking down your own brain.
Your mind: use it or lose it.
Robots will kill the need for roommates!
Goat Gardener says that removing cabbage from the garden is bad.
Canada needs to ditch US tech giants as well. Long live the Fediverse!
Joining EU might help with that.
Money well spent 💅
Oh no... They'll have to find some other countries to funnel their tax avoidance through. Might I recommend Russia now that Trump is pals with Vlad?
My landlord told me it would be expensive to buy my house too and yet
“Luxembourg would apparently take the biggest hit, with the study putting the cost at €1,711 per worker over ten years. Denmark (€905), Austria (€900), and Finland (€864) also face hefty bills, as does Ireland (€856)”
Those are the costs but aren't there also earnings? The study seems to ignore the fact that money not spend in the US will be spend in the EU.
Yeah, that's half of a cost-benefit analysis, and it's being promoted by the source of most of the cost.
So… the countries where hyperscalers avoid tax will no longer have hyperscalers avoiding tax in it. And somehow that’s framed as a bad thing?
Translation: Luxembourg workers, who are some of the highest paid people in the entire world, would have to pay 171 euros per year to build out a European tech force that would benefit themselves.
That sounds... awesome?
Yeah, it’s a pretty small amount for digital sovereignty
That is over 10 years. 90€ per worker per year is really nothing.
forcing businesses to move away from existing cloud infrastructure could trigger expensive software redevelopment projects, with code rewriting and re-architecting accounting for 69 percent of its estimated costs.
~70% of it just to move to another hosting provider? hmmmm
Depends on how deeply the firms have gotten locked into specific cloud provider services. It's possible to do things in a cloud-agnostic way (for example, Terraform-- ugh), but those implementations are suboptimal, and just as they used to say about Java's much-touted OS independence, it's "write once, debug everywhere."
I'm convinced that it's better to optimize for the cloud service you're running on, and take the one-time hit if you move somewhere else. And I don't believe there's much rearchitecting involved: it'll be lower-level stuff, mainly IaC and other config. If you have to recode, you probably did it wrong the first time.
From my software development standpoint that could actually be. AWS and azure have a hefty user lock in that could cost a lot to migrate out of
Yeah, going from AWS to Hetzner will require doubling your SRE/platform/infra/whatever-you-call-them staff, clearly.
We're on AWS at work. I use Hetzner personally.
The main issue with switching is the services. On AWS we use KMS, SQS, DynamoDB. On hertzner we'd have to run an instance with software for that ourselves and then rewrite systems and do migrations etc. That's the expense.
Also KMS has no alternate because it's not just software. It's a HSM. So where do we store the master keys on Hetzner?
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to do it, not up to me unfortunately.
If people are migrating to a platform, usually development takes place to add features to fill gaps and make the platform more attractive. 10-15 years ago we didn’t have well developed cloud computing but it was built by adding features that sucked people in. That can be done again if there is demand.
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