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[-] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago

A coworker says that all the problems in Paris is because Hillary has sent Antifa to cause chaos…

[-] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

But the chaos is not the bad part... the bad part is, as the meme says, normalising ever-diminishing standards of living (frogboiling)...

[-] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Yeah no wonder oligarchs can get away with anything when the populace is that gullible

[-] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Side note: the person that said this just got divorced for beating his wife. And he has been looking for a girlfriend and he has a list of demands he’s wants for a future relationship.

  1. She can’t be Mexican, even though he is Mexican.
  2. she can’t be an immigrant.
  3. she can’t be a liberal.
  4. she can’t have dyed hair
  5. no tattoos.
  6. She can’t be a fan of Taylor Swift.
  7. she has to be religious, preferably Mormon.
  8. no job or any aspirations other than having kids.
  9. has to be a trump supporter.
[-] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 days ago

Hey, at least he's clear about it. Much better than someone who pretends to be left-wing to get in someone's pants.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

About the same percentage of Americans protested against Trump in March as French protested over the weekend.

But with 1/10 the population density, the US protests appeared smaller.

edit: numbers were wrong - about 1/4 the population density. And the US had about 0.9% of its population participate in the March No Kings protest as opposed to France's 0.7%. So the US appears to be more active than France in protests, but they can't concentrate the majority of their protests in a single city like France can.

[-] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 days ago

The US protests are not nearly as sustained or as regulaly occurring as the French protests.

[-] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I also take umbrage with the notion that 0.9% of the population standing in a field or walking down a street would be as "active" as 0.7% of the population getting in street fights with cops and burning buildings down, even if both happened for the same amount of time.

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[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 64 points 5 days ago

I find the looting and property damage stupid because there are plenty of Billionaires and Politicians to loot and property damage yet they primarily targeting cafes and shops.

[-] spacegoat@lemmy.world 47 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It’s because it (typically) isn’t the political activists who are the ones looting. It is groups of criminals who just take advantage of the situation and the protestors are blamed.

[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 11 points 5 days ago

And LePen's campaign manager rubs his hands in satisfaction...

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[-] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

I draw the line at needless deviations from meme formats.

[-] Marn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 5 days ago

Reminds me of people that can look past concentration camps, murders carried out by ice, blatant corruption, bombing schools, and genocide but they draw the line at having to pay 2$ more for gas

[-] Aneb@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago

They only care when it affects their daily lives. Fuck black, brown, trans, gay, and women for they are something entirely different than a white american man.

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[-] yumpsuit@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago

In case anyone would be down to come to the comments of a meme and leave with further reading: In Defense of Looting: A Riotous History of Uncivil Action by Vicky Osterweil

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 10 points 4 days ago

media is only showing looting to gain sympathey for the right.

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[-] Wataba@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 days ago

Because Americans literally do nothing as their form of protest. They allow the steamrolling to happen to protect their own vapid moral integrity.

[-] psycholocomotor_no2@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Canadians might be worse in terms of doing nothing. The average Canadian in my experience can't even imagine politics left of the NDP (our social democrats).

The slow slide to the right that's just beginning here feels like it's just a boring fact and not a struggle.

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[-] supersquirrel@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

There are pros and cons, the violence and damage done in the French protests also make it easy for the rightwing to shatter solidarity among left and center voices. These protestors take the narrative the rightwing wants to push about the left and immigrants hook line and sinker without reflecting on the consequences of that, which is very very very very dangerous.

Rightwing fascists want nothing more than this to become a fist fight, it is the only environment their shitty politics can survive in because everyone is too distracted by the violence to actually interrogate what each side is saying and determine fascists are violent and full of shit.

You can criticize a protest like No Kings in the US for being wayyyy too deferential to the status quo, but you can also on the flipside point out that everyone who goes to a peaceful mass protest leaves knowing they are in the majority, and that a vast diversity of people have arrived at the same conclusion and desire to exert their will in a collective fashion that no significant percentage of the society resists in a rational way even if the power structures do.

Once you start throwing bricks at the cops and burning everything down you cut the potential for solidarity into two opposing sides which isn't so say that ACAB isn't true or that the pearl clutching around property damage isn't insulting given the human suffering the protests are meant to illuminate but the vision of the social project becomes diminished once things enter that realm, you have a war at that point not a social movement.

All that being said, I don't think the protestors are the problem, not even remotely, the inhuman conditions for the average person are the problem. I am also not trying to say a certain way of protesting is necessarily wrong, but this idea that we aren't in a struggle of primarily narrative is a sure fire way to lose catastrophically as the left which to be honest France should be alot more cognizant about given their history than they seem to be...

We all know rightwing fascists need and deserve to be punched in the face, but if you lean into that unreflectively you make it easy for them to portray the situation as a tit for tat fight rather than an existential struggle against dehumanization.

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[-] BooBees@fedinsfw.app 23 points 6 days ago

It’s performative. Remember, everything they take time to speak up on is projection of some sort, so they’re just mad about the reasons for the protests and find it advantageous to complain about the small percentage of people taking advantage of the protests to loot and cause damage in order to distract and taint the movements they don’t like or support. They’re literally virtue signaling, another thing they like to condemn when it’s done by someone they disagree with or don’t like, but here they are sitting behind a screen typing out how they would never do property damage or enter a building without permission or when it’s against the law, despite not speaking up when it’s their “side” doing it.

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago

Cuckservatives support billionaire pedophiles because that's what they aspire to be.

[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

the oligarchs have it made in america

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