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Key word is Europe. Because us north-americans are stuck 30 years in the past in terms of transport, but with cars twice as big.
even Mexico is building affordable vehicles, I'm driving a 20 year old car
Affordable vehicles are everywhere. The problem is that people want a massive chunk of affordable metal--- and a multi ton electric powered piece of machinery is a bit questionable to expect to be affordable if you still want to pay workers right.
It's easier to build affordably in countries that have lower costs of paying workers.
I'm very happy with my 24 solterra, it's pretty much Toyota, but it's the best performing Subaru I've ever had. A shame there aren't more Americans interested in buying them.
We had a loaner vehicle for a weekend, the Crosstrek wilderness, and I was talking with the car brained boss about getting the solterra back, I told him I miss the power, he heard "I'm going to miss the power" thinking the internal combustion engine was in any way an improvement to the all electric, I told him besides the engine noise there is nothing the ice does higher numbers in than the all- electric.
It's half the price of most new cars, and it blows everything but the highest performing cars (and other electric vehicles) out of the water.
Last time I test drove a Subaru, I said to the dealer: "perfect car for me, except that it uses gasoline", and I left. So I like to think I contributed to this new "EV only" strategy.
You needed to test drive a car to learn that it was a gasoline car? You're brave for admitting that.
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You test drove the car famous for exactly two things, one of which is its boxer engine. What exactly were you expecting if not the famous boxer engine?
I was expecting a fair comparison between 5 different cars having features I liked, so that I could choose one to purchase.
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Subaru has had an all electric option in the States for 4 years now,
I've had my Hyundai for 5 years so I guess Subaru was 1 year too late.
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I like and completely support the idea, but i was under the impression that the only reason that they're still a bit relevant in europe is the aficionados to the boxer engine. If they only sell rebadged toyota EVs, can they survive? I'm not a CEO but it doesn't seem smart to rebadge half-assed EVs from a company that doesn't believe in EVs.
Just in: Subaru is doing something without Toyota!
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I thought lots of European countries had upcoming bans on the sale of new ICE cars. So surely this is just getting ahead of that.
Those bans were all dropped due to industry pressure. Subaru is following sales projections and consumer demand.
The industry lobbied hard against that only to realize that with the current has prices people actually start to prefer EVs and people are still wondering why the European auto manufacturers are falling even more behind.
they are in process of ditching that. Merz and UVDL are pushing hard for it
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arent these all rebadged Toyotas Bz4x and C-hr+ ? did they stop making their own cars?
yes.
That’s a bold move, considering they’re only just now getting around to making their own EV - their earlier models are all basically rebadged Toyotas, iirc.
Which own EV? All their offering is based on Toyotas platform, or am I missing some news?
Last I saw, Toyota owns like 20% of Subaru and they are "strategic partners".
rip oversea lesbians
Its for the best. Their company has been stuck without innovation on extremely outdated powertrain platforms since the early 2000s.
Any chance it's not a privacy nightmare?
Which car isn't?
I used to drive a forester, what a lovely car. Now driving an EV 4WD. The advent of EV cars has changed the paradigm. A low down battery plus two or four motors for the wheels. The advantages of superior engine placement, transmission, drivetrain is all irrelevant now. I'm likely to stick with Japanese or Chinese simply because of the extra toys that not additional extras.
Lose the screens, put back the buttons, and return the Outback to a station wagon and we'll talk.
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