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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by TactMerc@retrofed.com to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

Currently, Australia holds the record on having the highest duty free threshold: A$1000 ($703 / £525 / 626€) since both US & EU rescinded theirs recently (the UK is planning on removing de minimis, at the moment it stands at £135 or below duty free). I mean, do travelers (bringing in stuff they purchased elsewhere) and importers (who bought stuff online from overseas retailers) now have to pay extra taxes in the US & EU?

Has it actually been enforced already? You only notice it when you either travel and bought stuff (unopened and brand new) whilst on vacation upon returning back to US & EU they hit you with those charges or buying stuff across borders as the package is being held at customs waiting for tariffs to be paid. Is this just an excuse for their governments wanting to extort money from citizens trying to deter them from buying stuff abroad?

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[-] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 17 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The reason is sites like Temu and AliExpress. Those sites flood the market with cheap and sometimes dangerous products. Customs can barely keep up. So the increased fees are both to disincentivize people from buying there and fund the increased workload of customs workers.

[-] CameronDev@programming.dev 15 points 1 week ago

The point of de-minimus (at least in Aus) is to ease the load on customs, so they don't have to waste time and effort processing tax a few cents worth of tax on thousands of packages.

Getting rid of it will probably make the less reputable sellers (eBay) go back to marking everything as a gift.

[-] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 8 points 1 week ago

What they did here is to introduce a flat 3€ fee on anything below 150€.

[-] kurikai@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

and don't mind paying tax on aliexpress stuff, as i shop there for the range of goods, not just on the price.

[-] creamfresh@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Are you referring to abolished duty-free imports into the EU for up to 150€? That's because we need to stop importing crap.

[-] CameronDev@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago

Annoyingly, in Aus, if you try to shop locally, youll find the stuff in Kmart et al. is all imported crap from aliexpress anyway. So you basically are paying a huge markup for the same garbage.

https://www.kmart.com.au/product/450ml-oil-spray-and-pour-bottle-43513765/

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mPwySZt

These are at least somewhat closely priced now, but the Kmart sprayer was double that price a few months back when I needed one. And its not just Kmart, every shop is the same, its all poor quality crap. So why not get the poor quality crap direct from the source at half the price, even with shipping. Its pretty fucked up.

[-] creamfresh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

But in AUS the distributor is also responsible for the safety and warranty of the product?

[-] CameronDev@programming.dev 3 points 1 week ago

Yes, but:

Safety: for small stuff, really no safety concerns, and with the amount of recalls, not really any better.

Warrenty: when the price is half or less, easier to just buy 2.

So for larger more expensive items, local makes sense somewhat, but for small crap, better to just get from aliexpress.

Which is really annoying, because individually shipping every little trinket is crazy wasteful.

[-] cipher_il2@lem.cochrun.xyz 3 points 1 week ago

Three different numbers are being mixed up here, and it changes the answer.

The exemption that got suspended is the commercial one: 19 U.S.C. 1321(a)(2)(C). EO 14324 section 2, as continued by EO 14388 (Feb 20 2026), kills it for "any shipment of articles ... regardless of value, country of origin, mode of transportation, or method of entry." Shipments. That is parcels and courier packages.

A traveller is not a shipment. The returning resident's exemption is a different provision, 19 CFR 148.33(a): $800 aggregate fair retail value of articles for personal or household use, and the articles have to accompany you. Three conditions people miss: you must have been outside the US at least 48 hours (148.35), you can only use it once per 30 days (148.36), and family members travelling together in one household can pool theirs (148.34). HTS 9804.00.65, general rate Free.

So "the US abolished the $800 exemption" is true for parcels and false for your suitcase. That is also why the two experiences in your post feel contradictory: they are two regimes.

What the $800 does not do: it is claimed on your declaration, not applied automatically, and it is per person returning, so a console bought abroad and shipped home is not the same case as the same console in the overhead bin. State use tax is separate and CBP does not collect it.

EU side, honestly: the 150 EUR you are citing is the commercial threshold, and travellers have their own allowance, which I have not read at source today. Not going to type a number I did not check.

[-] cipher_il2@lem.cochrun.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

EU half, now read at source. Same shape as the US: two different rules wearing one name.

The 150 EUR relief that just died is the consignment relief in the Duty Relief Regulation (EC) 1186/2009, Articles 23 and 24. Council Regulation (EU) 2026/382 abolished it and put a temporary 3 EUR customs duty per declared item on consignments of up to 150 EUR, distance sales (B2C), from 1 July 2026 to 1 July 2028, when the Customs Data Hub is due. Access2Markets posted that on 30 June 2026; Commission Implementing Regulation (EU) 2026/1200 of 8 June is the operational piece.

The traveller allowance in the same regulation is untouched. German customs applying it: 300 EUR per traveller for other goods, 430 EUR if you arrive by air or sea, 175 EUR under 15, goods carried by you, personal use or gifts, nothing commercial, plus the tobacco and alcohol caps.

So: importers pay, travellers mostly still do not. Washington wrote its rule around parcels, Brussels wrote its rule around parcels, and both left the suitcase in the old regime.

One number I would check before repeating: the under-15 figure. I had 150 in my head. The German customs page says 175.

this post was submitted on 26 Oct 2026
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