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[-] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago

According to Trump, nobody has rights but Trump, who has the Divine Right of Kings.

Trump and conservatives believe anyone they don't like for any reason doesn't have any rights.

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 69 points 2 days ago

This is not a new idea in Conservative circles. I remember having debates wih people 30 years ago, who voted for goobers like Bob Dole, George Pataki and Al D'Amato, who insisted that the rights in the Bill of Rights only applied to citizens, and foreigners in our country had no rights whatsoever.

And since Trump has decided that Omar's citizenship application is fraudulent, in his mind she never was a citizen, so is subject to the same treatment.

You see? It makes total sense, if you're a xenophobic moron!

[-] baronvonj@piefed.social 41 points 2 days ago

Or Bush senior saying that he doesn't know if atheists should be considered citizens.

[-] jasoman@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

Religion are the worse and need to be regulated to prevent harm.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 7 points 2 days ago

Its already regulated. Problem is just that no one cares to enforce it.

[-] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 5 points 2 days ago

You spelled eliminated wrong

[-] QueenHawlSera@piefed.social 5 points 2 days ago

Christianity needs to be treated like a mental health pandemic

[-] Kirp123@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

"The right of the people to be... "

"No person shall be held to answer..."

"In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall..."

And so on.

I don't see a single mention of citizen in there, only the people, person, the accused which are words that can refer to anyone citizen or not.

[-] fonix232@fedia.io 15 points 2 days ago

It's really simple, those who aren't US citizens, aren't people - according to MAGA.

[-] tquid@piefed.ca 3 points 1 day ago

~~citizens~~ white, straight, Christian men

FTFY

[-] Tujio@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Well, if you don't consider immigrants to be people...

[-] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 days ago

The idea of non-citizens having different rights (not none, but a very different set) is pretty well-established. But the courts have also long upheld that it's all or nothing. Once you become a citizen, you have all of those rights. If you renounce, you lose them all. There is very little wiggle room on the subject.

Trump decided she wasn't a citizen long before there was any question of fraud. That happened the moment she refused to kneel to him. The rest is just about how he can reach his goal of destroying anyone that would challenge him.

[-] Eternal192@anarchist.nexus 20 points 2 days ago

Isn't he "technically" an immigrant child? His grandfather was German, right? Soo by Trump logic he himself doesn't have rights.

[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Rules don't apply to him. Checkmate.

[-] bertlewirth@lemy.lol 5 points 2 days ago

Yup. As is always the conservative way, “rules flr thee, not for me”

[-] Throbbing_banjo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 2 days ago

Just fucking die already you fat, racist dotard.

[-] eurodyne@piefed.world 15 points 2 days ago

Sadly, these ideas neither started with him, nor will they die with him.

[-] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Unfortunately. The Heritage Foundation goes back to at least the early 1800s, but thats where things get murky. A direct line of people can connect Trump to Anthony Comstock.

Trump -> Roy Cohn -> Joseph McCarthy -> J. Edgar Hoover -> Anthony Comstock (although I can't seem to figure out if Hoover and Comstock ever actually met).

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[-] My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago

Can you even imagine how horrible the world would be if human immortality were ever achieved?

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago

We would have vampiric elites sucking the life force out of children... Oh wait.

[-] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Are we talking, like, we stop aging all together, or are we talking like "come back from death" immortality?

Because the former is a problem that can be dealt with, the latter is a horror movie.

[-] My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I mean permaputin, permatrump, permahegseth, permamiller, permahawley, permamusk, permazuck, permabezos, permatiel, permacruz...

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago

In the case of despots like Trump, the former is a dystopian thriller too..

[-] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I don't disagree, but he needs to be lucky every time, we need to be lucky once in that scenario.

[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.today 18 points 2 days ago

Conservatives have always opposed human rights. Always.

[-] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago

Ilhan Omar has constitutional rights.

[-] ElDuderino@lemmus.org 8 points 2 days ago

It really baffles fascists to learn that the constitution has never just protected citizens.

[-] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 14 points 2 days ago

Well, to be fair, he doesn't think any other American citizen has constitutional rights either.

[-] Blibly@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

I suggest Trump is a traitor and seditionist and should receive a just punishment as laid out in the Constitution.

[-] bertlewirth@lemy.lol 5 points 2 days ago

I suggest he get stoned to death for adultery, as per his precious book he and his ilk have never read.

[-] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

Now you're talking

[-] Pavidus@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Honest question, because this argument seems pretty fucking dumb. Is there not a process to vet and verify representatives? I would think that any crazy shit in their background would be found pretty quickly upon accepting the job.

I mean, I get that a shitload of people have worked for this administration while ignoring their background or qualifications. In those instances, it was ignored because they wanted to. In this case, they are specifically out to get her.

[-] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago

I think technically the vote is the verification.

[-] bw42@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

To be a Representative in the House you have to be at least 25 years old, a citizen for 7 years, and live in the state you're elected.

[-] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

“Excuse me, but aren’t there rules and procedures for this?” will echo through time as the most impotent question ever asked.

[-] kylie_kraft@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

Melania Trump doesn't have constitutional rights

Elon Musk doesn't have constitutional rights

keep it going

[-] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

There are no constitutional rights, we made the whole thing up

[-] artyom@piefed.social 8 points 2 days ago

Trump doesn't think anyone has any rights other than to suck his fat orange sausage.

[-] My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Cute to think that anyone thinks it's fat.

[-] mkwt@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

If there is any class or category of people who have no rights, then no one has any rights.

Because the government can just disappear full citizens into the no-rights category, and there is no right to challenge the designation.

[-] JustPlainDave@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 days ago

Really fucking dumb guy says really fucking dumb shit. This and weather and sports at 11:00.

[-] o0evillusion0o@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago

I suggest we talk about the TRUMP-EPSTEIN FILES(TM)

[-] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 3 points 2 days ago

If he makes that argument then we should also argue that he shouldn't have them either.

[-] madcaesar@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Everyone has constitutional rights, even pedophiles like Trump

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago

Not in all states. He is, after all, a convicted felon. He'd lose SOME rights everywhere in the US, voting rights everywhere except DC, Vermont, and Maine. If he was literally anyone else, that is.

The fact that he's functionally above the law even after being found guilty doesn't mean that others like him are..yet.

[-] Almacca@aussie.zone 2 points 2 days ago

Since when has Trump cared about the constitution?

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