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All their responses are generated, no conscience there, just AI. "Another brick in the wall" hits stronger than ever now.

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[-] Fallibilist@feddit.uk -1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Do you consider your own output here to be of more value then? After all, your average response length is about one sentence and I detect zero attempt to partake in any kind of conversation exploring ideas or even requiring the minimal amount of thinking to take place. Even here you're making a hasty generalization about hundreds of millions of people while implying they all run absolutely everything through AI while yourself seemingly mixing the terms conscience and consciousness. Not really the greatest example of someone successfully expressing their natural thought process without the help of AI.

[-] byungyoonc@piefed.ca 3 points 5 hours ago

A question for them: Why live anymore?
Okay, a bit more friendly version: where did you gave up living your own life?

[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 9 points 6 hours ago

What about opensource self hosted AI?

There are still major ethical issues with how they get training data, but the problem with hijacking the economy and society seems resolved. I feel like I can more easily forgive the copyright theft for someone just fucking around in their homelab, replacing Google assistant.

Maybe I'm just bean-souping.

[-] yyyesss@lemmy.world 17 points 6 hours ago

don't forget that frequent LLM use erodes patience and skills. even with the training ethics and environmental ethics set aside, they make you measurably dumber.

LLM users consistently underperform at neural, linguistic, and behavioral levels

https://arxiv.org/abs/2506.08872

[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 hours ago

This kinda gets philosophy-of-cognative-science-ey, but it kinda smells like "measuring a fish by its tree climbing ability". Or maybe like goodharts law.

There are many different kinds of smart, is the kind of smart they're measuring the one that will be relevant?

Again, I don't want to carry too much water for AI, but I also don't want to propagate arguments that also apply to other tools I like. Consider: externalizing memory. Without the tool you used to capture that memory, you're completely unable to function. Dependency on it reduces your ability to remember things yourself. By many measures, it makes your dumber and less productive. But I wouldn't personally consider taking notes to be detrimental.
So I want to be very careful when we make claims that externalizing some aspect of our cognition makes us worse somehow.

[-] XiELEd@piefed.social 2 points 4 hours ago

Maybe it's not about whether they are or are not NPCs, but the time they spend being as one. I also think spending time scrolling, having all your content delivered to you via an algorithm, also is kind of like spending time being an NPC.

[-] akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone 7 points 8 hours ago

need something?

[-] lntl@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 hours ago

Calling people NPCs because they use AI is pretty ironic. Using a tool doesn't make someone less human, any more than using a calculator makes someone incapable of thinking. The real question is whether people are using AI to expand their thinking or outsourcing it entirely. Blindly repeating AI-generated content is one thing; using AI as a tool for creativity, learning, or productivity is another. Judge the thought, not the tool.

[-] rm_rf@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 hours ago

Lemmy users would've hated when the calculator was invented.

[-] lime@feddit.nu 17 points 7 hours ago

i am absolutely judging the tool. no matter how you use it, you're tacitly approving of its existence. by continuing to use chatgpt and claude, you're essentially saying "all the stealing you did, all the power you use, all the underhanded business tactics keeping you afloat, i'm okay with that."

[-] riskable@programming.dev 3 points 6 hours ago

What about using the output of the tool?

Like, if I take one of those life-saving drugs discovered by AI... What's your take?

Or if I look at the hurricane path prediction maps.

Or if the fusion reactor designs created with AI work out.

[-] lime@feddit.nu 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

none of those are llm-based systems. as for llm-created things, i will avoid them like the plague because normalising them is giving even more power to the owners.

[-] XiELEd@piefed.social 0 points 4 hours ago

What if one doesn't use commercial LLMs, and use open-source local LLM instead?

[-] TootSweet@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago

using AI to expand their thinking

An oxymoron.

[-] OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Assisted AI is fine, but putting it in the drivers seat and abandoning critical thinking skills is pretty concerning, yet sadly not surprising with the masses

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