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My how fast the AI tech bros move to protect corporations but don't move to protect the average coder, artists, writers.

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[-] mousefad@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 20 hours ago

"It's so powerful! You're only allowed to use it how we want you to".

Allowed eh? How about go fuck yourself?

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 13 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Hot take:

This is a good thing.

Claude Code is the "lowest common denominator." It's the default, zero research option. Its where you go if you follow popular trends.

If you actually want to reverse engineer, help code a game or something, there are hundreds of capable, uncensored LLM APIs to do that. Hacker communities will eventually figure that out, and finally realize Claude isn't unique, and that Anthropic is toxic.

But for lazy spammers who don't know that and aren't motivated to seek stuff out... well, if this makes their life more difficult, good. If this sabotages Anthropic, that's good too.

[-] tgcoldrockn@lemmy.world 67 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Don't worry! Its STILL okay to reverse engineer the work of photographers artists writers actors voice over musicians modelers animators academics etc etc (feel free to add. the exploitation is literally everywhere!)

[-] Dojan@pawb.social 7 points 23 hours ago

Only if you're a corporation! If you're a filthy worker then you have no rights.

[-] solarspark@lemmy.ml 2 points 22 hours ago

Jokes on them when they face the consequences of usurping the jobs of all these professions, causing mass exit, and replacing with their error prone output of their slop and unoriginal thinking/artistry. I'm excited to see this outcome, not going to lie.

[-] chleb@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

Another reason not to use a closed models

[-] RabbitBBQ@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago

Misanthropic: Characterized by a hatred or mistrustful scorn for humankind.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 12 points 1 day ago

Is this in response to that new "reverse engineer anything" tool from the people that reverse engineered the Adobe suite?

[-] chewypoops@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

I'm really tired of the lie that ArtCraft is "reverse engineered Photoshop".

It's a slop factory. If you don't believe me, download it and run it yourself. It's just a frontend for tons of image and video GenAI bullshit. It doesn't resemble Photoshop in the slightest, that narrative is pure marketing.

And it's only "free" in the sense that you can download it for free. The first thing they ask you to do when you launch the program is buy tokens from them.

[-] melfie@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 hours ago

Even if it did work, Adobe’s legal team will obliterate them. I’m also not sure about the legality of using it for any paid work. It’s a moot point, though, since it’s slop, and better off using a cracked version that at least works.

[-] sanzky@lemmy.world 7 points 23 hours ago

of course. anyone who thinks AI can be used as a tool for independence is deluding themselves

[-] anewfox@lemmy.zip 9 points 23 hours ago

anyone who thinks AI can be used by us commoners for much longer is deluding themselves. it is so obvious that these big LLM companies want to capture the market by making everyone dependent and then crank prices way up.

[-] HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

The adobe suite was not reverse engineered, in the sense in which the term is applied to binary, closed-source softeware. Rather, it was cloned.

This is technically and often also legally very different. Cloning is a new implementation of a system which reproduces the abstract API of an existing System. Since APIs are not subject to copyright law, this is legally unproblemaric. It is also a creative process (so far). For exsmple, Linux is a clone of AT & T Unix.

Reverse engineering uses techniques like analysing the internal behaviour and decompiling the binary code of an existing product. It is im general not illegal, but it can violate license agreements and is more in a grey area. Laws like the DMCA might also apply if some kind of copy protection is used.

BTW, many Linux drivers are reverse enginnered to some degree.

[-] demonsword@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago

For exsmple, Linux is a clone of AT & T Unix.

Unless your definition of "clone" is very different from the mainstream one, you're talking out of your ass here. Linux was written from scratch. The only thing they've got in common is being POSIX-compliant.

[-] HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Yeah, it clones the Unix / POSIX API: Programs written for Unix will run on Linux. In the same way, the Photoshop/Office lookalikes are clones, they were written from scratch to yield a result compatible to the original.

Look at the explanations I linked.

[-] Fierro@piefed.social 9 points 1 day ago

I'm hopeful this is positive, they'll start loosing a lot more to Chinese models and I can assure you local models will blow up too.

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[-] arararagi@ani.social 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's not ok when the commoners get some power back huh. What a shame, I've been loving playing my favorite console fps games as a kid, now with keyboard and mouse support.

[-] kippininreal@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 day ago

So this is how these companies are going to safeguard against IP theft lawsuits! Leave our theft be, or we'll tell everyone how to get in.

Also it's incredibly telling how Anthropic doesn't add code to stop suicide ideation in teens (what they are their ilk are being sued for) but can somehow very quickly stop reverse engineering. A tool that values the captial holders through & through. Their "democratization of intelligence" schtick is obvious now.

OpenSource frontier models ASAP! Obviously never gonna happen, but a fool can dream atleast.

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[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago

To those who say "but what about game preservation?":

GenAI slop ruined communities around game preservation. And for every time a AAA dev getting this treatment, there's at least 3 indies getting it worse.

[-] starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works 4 points 21 hours ago

Yep a lot of decomps just get a slop coded version and people stop caring about it because the slop version is "good enough." Most people doing the decomps it's also a hobby project that they're doing for fun as well, the end goal is just a bonus.

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[-] danielfm123@lemmy.zip 91 points 1 day ago

When it hurts jobs, AI is the future, when it hurts rich friends needs moderation.

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[-] kerryh8er04@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 day ago

Man, the one thing I was interested in, the decompiling of abandoned software to get old games and software back, is being limited.

[-] luciferofastora@feddit.org 17 points 1 day ago

The task Large Language Models are best at is pattern correlation. Out of all the possible applications, reverse-engineering seems the most reasonable use case to me.

But figuring out how stuff works is the exact opposite of what they want vibe coders to do: Don't think, don't train your own skills, just trust the machine. And if it doesn't work, just prompt again and keep wasting more tokens, pushing the usage metrics to convince investors they're constantly growing, burning the planet and your company's money.

[-] Darkard@lemmy.world 408 points 2 days ago

The "There's no way we can stop our agents from going rogue" people, suddenly have a burst of ability to reign in their creation when it suits their interests.

Funny that.....

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[-] PacketPilgrim@thelemmy.club 43 points 1 day ago

"AI is going to make everything free!!" Proceeds to make video games free. "No, not that, shut it down!"

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[-] ParadoxSeahorse@lemmy.world 132 points 1 day ago

This is part of the reason they don’t want anyone running models locally offline, the models and their entire business are commoditized

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[-] minorkeys@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 day ago

But it can still do it. Just not for us.

[-] Muffi@programming.dev 5 points 1 day ago

More power and value to the open weight models, cool

[-] turdburglar@piefed.social 28 points 1 day ago

sounds like adobe made some calls.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

It's like watching the Nazi party ban the rape of Jewish women in 1944

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